New Routes For Newcastle
 

Will there be a team from Newcastle going to the Routes Development Forum in Madrid next week?

If so, has anyone any idea which airlines and routes they will be chasing?

Newcastle will certainly be sending a delegation, not sure if anything will come out of it that isn't already in the pipe-line though.

http://www.routesonline.com/lang/eng...s_airports.pdf

The conference was held in Edinburgh last year and it resulted in a number of long-haul routes from GLA....

Owners BAA pushing that airport as the only viable 'springboard' to
Edinburgh? :*

Yawn yawn yawn...whatever :zzz:

The Scottish long-haul route announced at the conference last year was EDI-EWR! At least get your facts right if you're going to whinge. :mad:

What has this got to do with new routes at NCL anyway?:rolleyes:

I was just wondering if they would be pitching for routes to places such as MILAN.HAMBURG and FRANKFURT and maybe now that Bristol is getting a Continental service to EWR whether they would be pitching for that.

Seems their wish for a Milan route has been granted, Ryanair from February next year

Good timings for the new Milan flights, mid-day arrival and departure to/from NCL
Another rumour is Emirates to Dubai(!!!!) According to someone on that other site who supposedly spoke to an EK representative

Understand Wizz are looking at NCL, on similar lines to those recently announced for LPL.

Sure is getting pretty crowded everywhere now.

It didn't take long for Milan to come off my wish list for NCL.

Three more routes need to be added to my original list.

CORK, STOCKHOLM and OSLO

Hapag-Lloyd Express is starting NCL-CGN and NCL-MUC, also EDI-HAM and SNN-CGN.

Love to see it happen, but they don't currently fly to MUC from anywhere (Unless someone knows different!).

They have released it to the press already:

new routes from Cologne/Bonn:
Rijeka 3x/weekly
Shannon 4x/weekly
Newcastle 4x/weekly

from Hanover
Stockholm Arlanda 3/weekly
Rijeka 2x/weekly
Pisa 3x/weekly
Rome Ciampino 4x/weekly

from Hamburg:
Edinburgh 3x/weekly

Ab München:
Olbia 4x/weekly
Palermo 4x/weekly
Newcastle 3x/weekly

All starting around March 10 with Hamburg-Edinburgh starting December 5 already.

Newcastle is listed as a destination on the Cologne/Bonn airport site: http://www.willkommeninkoeln.de/02map/map02e.htm

Just got my e-mail (uk seems to be 24hrs behind Europe with HLX)
Just as Thomas says Cologne/Bonn & ab Munchen great news for Newcastle coming just after Ryanair's Milan. Lets hope they do as well as Hanover!

Looks like the great facilities at the airport and a recognized name is really paying off.
:)

The flights are now bookable on >>>> no they are not! NOT when blatantly advertised on PPRuNe via a website they are not. If they want to advertise here ask for details and costs! Read the rules on advertising right at the head of this forum.

The Hanover flight times have changed, as it seems the Munich flights will be 'W' flights through NCL.

Newcastle-Munich
X3 6571 15:35 - 18:35 Sunday
X3 6571 10:35 - 13:35 Tuesday
X3 6571 07:35 - 10:35 Wednesday

Munich-Newcastle
X3 6570 19:00 - 20:00 Sunday
X3 6570 14:00 - 15:00 Tuesday
X3 6570 11:00 - 12:00 Wednesday


Newcastle-Cologne/Bonn
X3 3571 15:55 - 18:30 Sunday
X3 3571 16:00 - 18:35 Monday
X3 3571 13:00 - 15:35 Tuesday
X3 3571 15:25 - 18:00 Friday

Cologne/Bonn-Newcastle
X3 3570 14:55 - 15:30 Sunday
X3 3570 15:00 - 15:35 Monday
X3 3570 12:00 - 12:35 Tuesday
X3 3570 14:25 - 15:00 Friday


Newcastle-Hanover
X3 4521 20:25 - 22:55 Sunday
X3 4521 15:25 - 17:55 Tuesday
X3 4521 12:25 - 14:55 Wednesday
X3 4521 21:20 - 23:50 Friday

Hanover-Newcastle
X3 4520 14:40 - 15:10 Sunday
X3 4520 09:40 - 10:10 Tuesday
X3 4520 06:40 - 07:10 Wednesday
X3 4520 20:25 - 20:55 Friday

from 27/03/2005

Just had a look at HLX winter timetable (correct at 30/9/04).
The COLOGNE service commences on 11th March TUES/FRI/SUN
and the MUNICH service on the 13th March SUNDAYS only then operates as per JOHN WALTON above

Fly Be should be firming up possible new summer routes soon..........Should give the traveling public of the NE even more choice!:)

What routes are flybe considering then?

Apparantly NCL is in the running along with 2 other UK airports for a DXB service, operating atleast 3xweekly. The a/c would have to be a A330.

Excel Airways are also looking at possiblity of starting long haul routes out of NCL to caribbean etc. This is in addition to 2 737 aircraft next summer. The airline obviously thinks very highly of NCL, as do other airlines.

Wonder if Ryan will start any new routes soon? Flybe to SNN, ORK, JER, TLS????

In addition to previous posts there will probably be Easyjet aircraft No. 7 with three new destinations plus any odd inward routes that Ryanair may launch.

I think Easy are planning a little consolidation next year so No 7 could be a while off! Then again you never know with Easy!

Looks like 05 will be the year for other carriers starting routes and what a start!:)

Possibilities
 

Ok so here's some possiblities for new routes on the scheduled front..

MAD, Oslo, Stockholm, Faro, Athens, Naples, Venice, Frankfurt, Murcia, Toulouse, Shannon, Cork, London City, Jersey, Warsaw, Geneva, Malta or how about some competition on things like Amsterdam or new loco services to Dubrovnik???

And of course a link with NYC......CO come on!

What about expanding charters to africa, long haul to Caribbean, Mexico? Rumour has it Excel are eyeing up possibilities and with a chance of an EK DXB service Newcastle is getting to be a world class airport with a network to rival bigger hubs.

Nice to see that NCL will have more HLX links than any other UK airport, HAJ, CGN & MUC!:)

So Ryanair are going to Milan from Newcastle. You have to ask the question, which Milan? Now my money is say it's not the Milan the passengers want to go to, the real Milan ie LIN. Nor do I recon that it will be MXP, but I could be wrong. I'd put money on the cheap option: Bergamo.

Yes, it is their hub at BGY. Easy have dropped several routes from LIN because they can't get the right slots. Forget about serious loco at marble plated MXP!

BGY is one Ryanairport you can't really criticise that much - it's got plenty of facilities, a big mall across the road if your flight's delayed, and is only about 1 mile further out than MXP. MXP may have the "Malpensa Express" train, but that doesn't connect well with the rest of the city, and takes only about 5 minutes less than the BGY bus.

Charter Routes 2005
 

Apparrently, new charter expansion as well, as follows:

Britannia Airways : Alicante, Arrecife, Bourgas, Corfu, Dalaman, Faro, Gerona, Heraklion, Ibiza Kefalonia, Kos, Larnaca, Las Palmas, Luxor, Mahon, Malaga, Naples, Palma Mallorca, Paphos Pula,, Reus, Rhodes, Tenerife South, Thessaloniki, Varna and Zakynthos.

Excel Airways: Alicante, Arrecife, Chania, Corfu, Dalaman, Funchal, Heraklion, Kos, Larnaca, Mahon, Malaga, Palma Mallorca, Paphos, Rhodes, Santorini, Skiathos, Tenerife, Thessaloniki and Zakynthos.

Islandsflug: Corfu, Heraklion, Kalamata, Kavala, Kefalonia, Kos, Rhodes Samos, Santorini Skiathos, Thessaloniki, Volos and Zakynthos.

Monarch Airlines: See earlier thread.

MyTravel Airways: Alicante, Almeria, Arrecife, Corfu, Dalaman, Faro, Fuerteventura, Gerona, Heraklion, Ibiza, Kos, Larnaca, Las Palmas, Mahon, Malaga, Malta, Monastir, Naples, Orlando Sanford, Palma Mallorca, Paphos, Reus, Rhodes, Tenerife and Zakynthos.

Thomas Cook Airlines: Alicante, Arrecife, Bodrum, Bourgas, Corfu, Dalaman, Faro, Fuerteventura, Heraklion, Ibiza, Izmir, Kos, Larnaca, Las Palmas, Mahon, Malaga, Orlando Sanford, Palma Mallorca, Paphos, Puerto Plata, Reus, Rhodes, Sharm El Sheik, Tenerife, Varna and Zakynthos.

Additionally, flights by other airlines will be served to: Alghero, (BE), Antalya (XQ), Arrecife (FUA), Athens (A3), Bastia (BE), Bodrum (OHY & PGT), Bourgas (BGH), Corfu (A3), Dalaman (PGT), Dubrovnik (OU), Faro (LK & JKK), Funchal (MMZ), Heraklion (VIK), Ibiza (AEA), Larnaca (ZU), Las Palmas (FUA), Mahon (FCA), Malaga (FUA), Malta (KM), Monastir (LBT), Olbia (BE), Orlando Sanford (FCA), Palma Mallorca (AEA, FUA & JKK), Paphos (ECA), Rimini (FLT), Salzburg (FCA & BE), Split (OU), Tenerife (AEA, FUA & LTE), Varna (BGH), Venice (BD), Verona (FCA & AWC).

Is the Luxor (BY) in addition to the Sharm El Sheik (TCX)?

If it is, it must be as of Winter 05 as there hasn't been an announcement wrt that for next summer. Ditto with Pula (Croatia, BY).

New (returning) carrier
 

Hi all,

Just signed up and was browsing this thread,

I can confirm that a new/old carrier will be operating out of NCL from 1st Nov.

SAS will restart a daily rotation to CPH.

I think EZY might pe pulling the plug on their flights, that's just a rumor tho.

We don't know what a/c they're going to use yet but i expect it's a Dash-8D.

Later dudes,

Sharky12t

SAS are going to be using a Cimber Air CRJ-200

Sharky
You've been away a while, Easy have announced the end of the CPH as well as BRS-CPH due to new Danish passenger tax's.
SAS starts end of this month and Easy finish 13th Dec? Just before the GVA starts.

BEE starts EXT & SOU at the end of this month also, together with Easy's sixth a/c going to be a busy winter!
:)

FlyBE?
 

Cheers for the update then guys, we weren't sure what kind of a/c we were getting in the office.

As for FlyBe that's the first i've heard of it and we handle them aswell, I despatched 2 Belfast flights yesterday, one of them in 12 minutes block to block.

Might circulate that rumor when i get back to work on Friday.

Sharky
Check fly bee web site seats been on sale for months now. Announced last July I think?

:)

Sharky

Just as a matter of interest, any ideas on what size of loads Flybe are getting on the BHD route?

JKP505.... thanks for the info but its dont really sound like an expansion to me. I already work at NCL airport and that sounds exactly the same charter programme as this year.
I doubt very much MYT will be doing the NCL-SFB as its been sub leased to MON for the last few years and as they are dropping down to only 1 A320 next summer i doubt you will see the A330 passing throught, from what i hear MON will be doing it again next year.

TCX are not ops the NCL-SSH but BY will be doing it on the 757
BY are also rumoured to b dropping a 757 next year but keep your ears open for that.
I wouldnt b suprised to see Air 2000 (FCA) back anytime soon, they were supposed to be doing SFB on the 767 this year but never come up, but im sure they will b doing it next year.

I dont think Islandsflug are ops out of NCL next year from what i hear but also heard that XLA will be adding a 2nd 738 to NCL as well as possibly doing the odd longhaul. Maybe it will be shared with TCX so might not see a TCX A330 doing the caribbean. Thats what ive heard recently anyway.

BHD Loads
 

ALLMCC,

Most of the flights yesterday were about 40% full, it's the weekend flights that get the higher figures, stag and hen parties.

The 434 and 432 on Sunday were booked 72 and 76 respectivley.

It's quite good fun to be competing with Easyjet for the departure gate, their BFS and our BHD flights are due out round about the same time in the evenings.

So FlyBe are going to be competing with Eastern on the SOU route, good job because Easterns fares are rediculous. I expect they'll both be targeting different types of passenger tho.

Cheers for the heads up.

Sharky

Have also heard the new Flybe. EXT service's advance bookings are faring better than predicted;)

Regards

Mike

Overall
 

So overall, for once NCL is gaining in services and indeed credibility in the industry, airlines are actually wanting to fly here and expand their presence, actually marketing themselves well enough so people are aware of new flights etc. :O

This year alone, easy have expanded by adding SXF, PMI, NCE and soon to start BUD, FCO and GVA. New charters to greece were added and HLX arrived on the loco scene. Flybe are starting new services to Sou and EXT with more on the horizon. SAS are restarting their old CPH service in place of easy.

Next year (and if some rumours are to be believed) NCL will have extra loco flights from Easy, Flybe and Ryan and the possibility of long haul scheduled services to the US and Dubai(?)!!! It is no secret to airport wants to attract extra scheduled services from both loco and full service airlines such as SAS, Lufthansa etc.

And other airlines are looking..Wizz, Swiss and others.

On the charter front, next season, as well as through the winter new services to Eygpt and the Caribbean will commence, as well as some new european holiday spots.


owever there appears to be a reduction in capacity from some airlines and increase with others. BY are to base just one 757 and share one with Teesside (Sorry Durham Tees Valley International Airport). MYT dropping to just one A320. TCX keeping 2 757 and excel supposedly having 2 737, aswell, according to some sources long haul using their 767 (any ideas where?). Islandsflug will make a return doing a few weekend based flights, as I am led to believe a lengthy contract was signed.

All this aswell as the usual scheduled and charter flights made by non based aircraft, surely passenger numbers are going to rocket at Newcastle. The apron will certainly look crammed with all those nightstopping aircraft.

:ok:

MYT are reducing a/c to one A320 and BAL has two 757's during the week, one goes to Gatwick over the weekend! Guess lots of sub charters!
MME has a BAL B738 based, nothing to do with NCL. This will mean a reduction of seats on some routes presently done by W ing 757 or 767's!
:)