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nclairportfan 29th Jan 2005 22:50

There has been nothing announced yet about a direct service. It could just be scheduled flights connecting in London, Paris or Amsterdam though.

Craig
www.newcastleairportfan.co.uk

Jamesair 29th Jan 2005 22:53

I haven't heard of any prospective New York scheduled service out of NCL in 2005, a possibility exists for 2006. I suspect the flights in the advert will be on BA via HRW.

GrahamK 1st Feb 2005 09:13

Apparently Air Malta will launch a 1 x weekly scheduled flight to Malta in the summer, in addition to their charter flights.

johnwalton 1st Feb 2005 11:39

The Thursday evening service is already shown on the Air Malta timetable, the flight that arrives NCL 2145, and leaves NCL at 2230. Aren't they just going to sell the extra seats on this flight?

Kev 1 1st Feb 2005 13:04

AMC
 
According to the website, the flight is KM248/9, and the current Air Malta arrival on Thursdays in KM 5182/3 according to Belle Air, think its two seperate flights....

johnwalton 1st Feb 2005 13:28

It's listed as a Scheduled flight on the NCL airport website as well, with the 5182/3 times being the same as the 248/9 times. Looking at the Belleair site though, the times listed there are slightly different.

GrahamK 1st Feb 2005 15:44

KLM used a 737-900 into NCL yesterday - a first visit of the type

Jamesair 1st Feb 2005 16:36

The KM248/9 Thursday flights seem to be a scheduled service on the Air Malta timetable valid 5th May - 27th Oct.

Bellair Holidays is a subsidiary company of Air Malta so an allocation of seats on the scheduled flight would not be out of the ordinary.

FinalsToLand 1st Feb 2005 17:14

jamesair,


I haven't heard of any prospective New York scheduled service out of NCL in 2005, a possibility exists for 2006. I suspect the flights in the advert will be on BA via HRW.
Wheres HRW??

F.T.L

emiratesdxb 1st Feb 2005 18:34

Wheres HRW??


I think he probably means LHR.

Jamesair 2nd Feb 2005 10:39

correct.....sorry about that folks

Jamesair 2nd Feb 2005 19:33

According to this weeks CAA Air Transport licencing notices,

Northumbria Helicopters have made an application for a Type "B" licence.


(Information for the Helicopter guys reading this thread)

johnwalton 2nd Feb 2005 20:39

Believe that is so they can operate pleasure and charter flights?

MerchantVenturer 3rd Feb 2005 22:09


Think I read somewhere (might have been here on Pprune) that average loads for both the flyBe flights to EXT and SOU were in the high 80%-low 90% range
GrahamK

The CAA stats for November have now been published and show that 3646 pax used the Flybe NCL-EXT route that month.

I believe there is a daily rotation, including Sats and Suns. Assuming the service ran for the whole of November this gives an average load of just under sixty-one, or just under 80% of the Dash -8- 400's capacity. An excellent start and in November!

6859 pax flew the NCL-SOU route in November but I believe that two airlines operate this route so it is not possible to work out average loads for either.

21289 pax flew the NCL-BRS route in November all of course with easyJet so one can see the average loads were nearly 124, or about 84% of the B 737-700's capacity.

There certainly seems to be a great affinity between the Newcastle area and the southwest/south coast, so why not Newquay as well as someone else suggested in this thread? :)

crewboi83 4th Feb 2005 14:14

RE the KLM 737-900
It was a one of unfortunatly....... The earlier KLM flight had a tech problem and there was a lot of passengers to be rebooked, to the earlier flight was combined and KLM sent in the 737-900 to operate both flights on th 1 a/c.... so sorry to say its a 1 off...
Although rumour has it KLM will close its base in NCL within the next 18 months.... KLM will drop to only 3 dailys NCL-AMS's services all ops by the 733/734

aeulad 4th Feb 2005 14:17

3 daily 733/734s. Rubbish. The only way this would be possible is if easyJet come in on the route, otherwise 3 73s a day would simply not meet the demand, not by a long way.

Regards

Mike

Jamesair 4th Feb 2005 16:25

With over 21,000 pax per month why on earth would they even consider that option.

KLM depends on their feeder traffic from the UK to fill their Longhaul flights.

CentreFix25 4th Feb 2005 17:41

I agree with the two above, believe it when i see it!

nclairportfan 5th Feb 2005 10:50

I hope there will be more expansion from flybe at NCL.

I think flybe. clearly have Eastern in their sites. As well as lower fares you also have to consider that for those prepared to pay higher fares with flybe. (Business Travellers) do get access to Executive Lounges at most airports = something Eastern don't offer on any fare!!

If the times are right they will attract business travellers. I would love flybe. to start more routes from NCL such as:

INV
NWI
Double daily EXT (we already have a single rotation)
BHX
ABZ

and of course some regional French destinations would be immensely popular.


Craig
www.newcastleairportfan.co.uk

PapaRomeo 7th Feb 2005 09:26

with regards to the above on the ams route, crewboi is correct. Just before xmas the cabin crew all received letters informing them that the crew base was closing due to the reduction of services and the transfer of the routes to the 737 mainline fleet!

CentreFix25 7th Feb 2005 15:07

A posting on 'north east aviation enthusiasts' has VLM starting a 3x daily NCL-London City at the end of March.

nclairportfan 7th Feb 2005 15:48

Nothing official yet though - don't count chickens until they hatch as they say!!!

CentreFix25 7th Feb 2005 18:36


Nothing official yet though - don't count chickens until they hatch as they say!!!
I'm not counting my chickens, just posting a rumour. Whats the point of your posting?

crewboi83 7th Feb 2005 18:57

REF The KLM 737
Im not posting this as a RUMOUR its true.... KLM CityHopper are to close bases at NCL/BHX/MAN/EDI and GLA! you ask all the people at these bases who will be looking for new jobs soon!
They are to focus on smaller bases such as MME/HUY/EMA with the fokker fleet and use the 737 on the bigger airport.... this has been very sucessfull at ABZ hence them closing the base.
I sit on that KLM check in a regular basis and the laods arnt FAB! only the 1st one of the day and the 4pm service and thats about it!
Give it about 18 months and the base will be closed. KLM CH have stopped recruiting at these bases and they are just w8ing for the numbers of crew to drop and then when there is only a handfull left they will close the base.
Origional plans where to use 733/734 on 3x daily rotations to AMS which would in fact cover the total daily loads of all 5 fokker 70/100 rotations. there is mention of a 4th daily service if the 3 daily ones are filled enough.

LBA 7th Feb 2005 19:09

Sorry to take it off NCL, but will LBA remain a base?

Thanks.

Sharky12t 7th Feb 2005 20:13

KLC Closing
 
I'll be happy to see the back of the F100's after the last coupla months i've had with them, I know the 70's were a pain in the ass for trim sometimes but I'd take a 70 over a 100 anyday if i want the flight to actually operate, even one of the dutch KLC crew was saying how they never have any problems with the 70's but the 100's are always going tech.

Have to revise them 5* messages again.

airhumberside 7th Feb 2005 20:17

Could this mean more flights to HUY and/or Fokker 100s to HUY

aeulad 7th Feb 2005 20:54

Crewboi83. a) you are not crew
b) KLM do not fly to EMA.

I would not be surprised if KLM dropped the schedule to 4 daily, but a reduction to 3 daily is unlikely, and not just in my eyes.

Guess we will see

Regards

Mike

PapaRomeo 8th Feb 2005 11:03

sharky

you'll have to remind me too on that 5* s**t. Give me a BA 320 anyday!

Sharky12t 8th Feb 2005 11:52

Actually the messages are OK, I just always forget the sodding LMC form at -2.

crewboi83 8th Feb 2005 18:58

Mike.... not that I have to explain myself to the likes of you but I am crew..... took part time hours to help out the airline i work for, so took my old check in job back part time also to keep my wages up to what i was used to. however will be going to a new airline FULL TIME.... so technically I AM CREW!!!

Jamesair 8th Feb 2005 19:40

I suppose it's a logical swop from City Hopper to KLM mainline and with larger aircraft they can maintain the same capacity with fewer flights. Sorry about the base closing and the job losses though.

With Newcastle in the top 10 UK airports- pax-wise, the airport is getting recognition as a large airport warranting mainline service.

GrahamK 8th Feb 2005 19:45

Summer AMS looks like 4 Daily F100s and a Daily F70
AF CDG has 2 Daily CRJ-700s and a Daily ERJ145
BA LHR 7 Daily (4 x 757, 2 x 320 and 1 x 319)

10 DME ARC 9th Feb 2005 07:12

Graham
KLM are planning 1x737, 1xFK70 & 3xFK10. The 73 coming back on the first morning arrival.
BA at the moment have 6x 757 and 1 A319 for the summer, however with BA this could change!
:)

nclairportfan 9th Feb 2005 19:20

Look as though the London City rumour was fiction Click here to find out more!

10 DME ARC 10th Feb 2005 07:18

I don't think its purely a NCL problem. The main obstacle to any new routes from LCY is peak period slots due parking. I believe one new stand is being built now but who gets the slots and for which routes who knows???
:)

TOPJET973K 10th Feb 2005 10:10

Manston (or not?)
 
Hi guys

What's the gossip/rumour regarding EU JET starting a Manston - Newcastle rotation in March?

Cheers

M

GrahamK 10th Feb 2005 10:30

Was announced before Xmas, 1 daily F100. Flight numbers are something like VE362/363

crewboi83 10th Feb 2005 21:17

Any1 know who is handling EU JET at NCL?

GrahamK 10th Feb 2005 21:33

No idea, but just seen on local news that their was another near miss involving an RAF jet and a plane flying from Leeds Bradford to Aberdeen near Newcastle


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