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transwede 4th Dec 2004 16:26

Once the planned expansion is complete NCL should be able to grow and grow, with the current mix of scheduled, charter and low cost flights. There are many posts on this topic with rumours and possiblities so I thought I'd have my two-penneth on what could work and what is needed at NCL.

New Scheduled Routes to Frankfurt (LH), Zurich (LX), Madrid (EZY), Eastern Europe - Krakow, Warsaw etc (Wizz or Easy), Lisbon, Toulouse/Marseilles, Sched services to Faro, Venice, Athens, Naples, Malta, Cyprus (helios?). New Routes to Scandinavia, Cork, Shannon and of course a worldwide scheduled link to NYC, Dubai....

New charter services to Caribbean, Africa (Agadir, Marrakech, Other coastal resorts in Eygpt), Some italian services (catania, rimini), charter routes to france (sardinia, corsica) or places like croatia...

And what about a year round link with toronto?

Many of the existing flights to some of these places do extremely well on a charter basis, so how about adding scheduled services, introducing new destinations to geordies, afterall new routes to BUD, PRG, Berlin etc have excelled expectations.

:confused: ;) :confused:

CentreFix25 4th Dec 2004 17:25

I would have thought with their relationship with Newcastle and Birmingham, Flybe would have added this route in competition with Eastern.

Following on from transwede, I would have thought given the large local Jewish population a route to Israel would be viable on a weekly basis?

Jamesair 7th Dec 2004 11:11

Maybe the new Cork route from Durham/Teesside by BMI Baby will help get somebody interested in restarting a service from Newcastle. It used to have decent loads and must present a good opportunity to somebody....Air Wales maybe!!!!!!

Charlie32 8th Dec 2004 10:48

Frankly
can't wait till it all goes tits up, and Parkin gets his marching orders, after the way he has treated the aero club. (see post on private flying)
An empire built on sand if you ask me!!

Northern Hero 8th Dec 2004 21:41

Jamesair

Think you'll find that Air Wales have already chosen MME working alongside WW on the ORK route. Heard they are to operate a Sunday service ex MME.

Jamesair 9th Dec 2004 16:19

Northern Hero

Oh well, another one bites the dust. Over to Aer Arran then to save the day for NCL.....could they be tempted?

aeulad 9th Dec 2004 17:04

I don't understand that last post:confused: :confused:

The link is'nt working

Regards

Mike

10 DME ARC 9th Dec 2004 18:22

I think you will find Air Wales are diven by Baby, they do a few routes out of Cardiff for them, Cork being one of them.

Still, got Munich, Cologne and Milan to look forward to next year and who knows what the new year may bring us??
:)

nclairportfan 9th Dec 2004 20:22

Personally I would like to see Shannon and Cork launched from NCL. I think they would both be popular.

nclairportfan 11th Dec 2004 21:43

Is it true easyJet are basing another aircraft at NCL next year?

This was only a rumour I heard so I am not sure if it is true but it would be good to see more destinations from them especially now that Ryanair have confirmed there will be no more routes until after next Autumn at least (with the exception of Milan going double daily if it is successful).

airhumberside 11th Dec 2004 21:46

Perhaps Aer Arran could do Cork and Ryanair do Shannon in 2006

nclairportfan 11th Dec 2004 22:00

I hope so Humberside. It would be great for routes other than Dublin to be served from NCL.

nclairportfan 17th Dec 2004 15:43

Just to let you all know that EUJet have announced a route from Newcastle - Kent International Manston starting 27th March.

johnwalton 17th Dec 2004 17:25

Yep its 1x daily (excl Sat), mid morning route. Is there a market for Newcastle-Kent?

nclairportfan 17th Dec 2004 17:28

Convieniant for Eurostar!

Jamesair 17th Dec 2004 17:30

Only time will tell. To be honest, I didn't think there would be much of a market for the Exeter - Ncl route but, according to Flybe its doing ok.

I had hoped this route would have continued on to Shannon, being the other EU base.

nclairportfan 17th Dec 2004 17:40

I have wrote to EUJet again today asking if they are planning a route to Shannon. They seem to respond to emails (or they did the last time!). I will let you know if I get a response.

Shannon and Cork routes are much needed at NCL!

johnwalton 17th Dec 2004 18:12

I can see more reason why NCL-EXT would be working on a low-fare basis as you would be talking 7 hours on the train, and the Cornwall/Devon region is a popular destination for North East tourists.

As for Manston being used for Eurostar, the train probably works out about the same, with no mode changes. The flight including check-in time and baggage collection would be 2.5 hour minimum, plus 30 mins coach/taxi journey to Ramsgate station, 40 mins journey from Ramsgate to Ashford international, meaning a minimum journey time to connect with Eurostar of about 4 hours. The train would take about 5 hours but you would only have to change at Kings Cross and then London Bridge, no coach or taxi. Suppose we'll have to wait and see how it performs.......

airhumberside 17th Dec 2004 19:45

NCL - Shannon
 
Personally I wouldn't look for EU Jet to do NCL-Shannon. At SNN they seem to be concentrating on leisure routes, athough perhaps they should make Kent daily. Perhaps Ryanair (although it wouldn't be any time soon) or Flybe if they open an NCL base would be a better bet

Jamesair 18th Dec 2004 17:37

I just thought that they could have done a morning flight from Manston to Shannon via NCL then a leisure flight from Shannon returning to Manston via NCL in the evening, providing good utilisation for an aircraft.

You are probably correct though and best hope lies with Flybe or maybe Aer Arran.

HH6702 19th Dec 2004 11:10

I cant see aer arran operating out of newcastle as the airport played them off with ryanair for the dublin route when BA pulled out. I dont think that aer arran will want to help NCL but i maybe wrong!!

nclairportfan 19th Dec 2004 16:53

That was before the airport was sold though (or some of it anyway!).

I think Aer Arran would only be interested in profits and if they felt the route would be popular then they would do it - as with most airlines.

Perhaps Market Research is required to see what the North East really want as new destinations!

CentreFix25 21st Dec 2004 16:01

NIA has won another court battle, BP fuel farm to close in March. Rumour is car hire will move to the area vacated by BP and a new hotel will be built where car hire is now.

HH6702 22nd Dec 2004 15:43

BP was going to move anyway to the new bit
Car park was also moving as well as the desks in the termial.

more shops to go there.

CentreFix25 22nd Dec 2004 15:58

BP are not moving, their closing down. New fuel farm will be operated by Swissport.

nclairportfan 22nd Dec 2004 21:24

Yes that's my understanding too centrefix!

HH6702 23rd Dec 2004 12:25

Just to let you know that the following routes have been dropped

Excel Wednesday flight to Kavala
Britannia Thursday flight to EFL

Lets hope there is no more!!

johnwalton 23rd Dec 2004 14:45

EFL is still operating with Kosmar, except it will be a non-based flight on a Sunday arr NCL 0930 dep NCL 1030, it will operate June, July, beginning of August and then again in October. Not sure if that will be Excel or another operator though.

GrahamK 23rd Dec 2004 14:53

I dont think there was going to be an XLA flight to Kavala on a wednesday anyway. Both the based XLA a/c do Flights to Paphos and Rhodes on a wednesday.
I would have thought Kavala would be operated by Islandflug or someone

HH6702 24th Dec 2004 11:38

The Kavala flight was shown in the Kosmar summer 05 but it is now not shown in the 3rd edition.

The ATH flight has not been shown in any of the brochures for summer 05.

The excel ZTH flight is on the net as leaving at 04:00 on sundays. I think that the Kos and Rhodes will be operated as one flight or one of them as a W?

Hopefully newcastle airport will put some sort of timetable out early in 05!!!! heres hoping..

GrahamK 24th Dec 2004 12:08

HH6702, look at the Kosmar website, still shows flights from NCl to ATH and all those other bits in Greece

nclairportfan 6th Jan 2005 16:15

Hi all

Just to let you know that a survey is online about a new route from Newcastle to London City.

You can get more information from the www.newcastleairportfan.co.uk and then click forum. It's in the London City posts.

transwede 7th Jan 2005 09:11

Rumour has it that easyjet are about to announce 2 new routes from NCL within the next few days. Both to start Summer 2005.

Ibiza and Faro.

Looks like aircraft 7 on its way?

nclairportfan 7th Jan 2005 16:49

Crikey! Ibiza is an odd destination from easyJet! I would have thought Faro, Madrid and a third destination would be more likely.

simonwa 7th Jan 2005 17:47

Transwede, where did you get your information from?

Hope it is true, FAO from NCL with EZY would be an excellent addition to the departure boards!

Am a bit surprised about IBZ, would it be summer only?? What would happen in winter??

Normally, EZY announce 3 routes when basing a new aircraft, so I wonder if any of the existing routes will be increased??

Jamesair 8th Jan 2005 16:49

Sounds good but a/c No. 7 would need three destinations to be properly utilised or maybe a frequency increase on a route already operated.

witchdoctor 8th Jan 2005 18:26

Great! More destinations for the discerning Charva! Just what we need - more drunken, abusive, shellsuited yobs off for a fortnight's boozing for the cost of a Warren James sovereign ring.

How about some decent routes for 'normal' people? Tallin? Lubljiana (sp?)? St. Petersburg?

aeulad 8th Jan 2005 18:42

I would think that maybe easyJet will increase Alicante to twice daily this coming summer.

Regards

Mike

Frankfurt_Cowboy 9th Jan 2005 13:17

Witchdoctor, by "normal people" do you mean ignorant, pretentious bigots with superiority complexes? And one out of three isn't that bad for your spelling.

FinalsToLand 9th Jan 2005 13:27

Whitchdoctor just think those yobs help pay your wages,

F.T.L


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