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If this were to happen, DUB is plausible providing the current cap allows though the smaller airframe would make it difficult to complete with the likes of Aer Lingus/American/Delta/United. From a UK perspective the only realistic operation I could see is LCY, essentially a replacement of the BA A318 services pre-Covid. Anyone that would expect to see this at the likes of MAN, NCL or GLA I'd say dream on, but would like to be proved wrong.
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If this were to happen, DUB is plausible providing the current cap allows though the smaller airframe would make it difficult to complete with the likes of Aer Lingus/American/Delta/United. From a UK perspective the only realistic operation I could see is LCY, essentially a replacement of the BA A318 services pre-Covid. Anyone that would expect to see this at the likes of MAN, NCL or GLA I'd say dream on, but would like to be proved wrong.
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I honestly struggle to see how an A220 is going to be profitable from any smaller regional airport where demand is going to be very much low yield leisure driven. For the same reasons I can't see Breeze competing successfully at EDI or MAN. In Ireland ORK would make more sense than DUB.
I guess if regional airports were in the running they would be the likes of BHX, BRS, GLA and perhaps NCL.
I guess if regional airports were in the running they would be the likes of BHX, BRS, GLA and perhaps NCL.
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Breeze will go after markets that are unserved but where they know quantifiable demand exists through a connection. They'll also look at markets that were previously operated but rationalised by bigger competitors.a
White Plains (Westchester) had been previously mentioned for a Dublin route. Very plausible with current pre clearance facilities in Dublin. Though whether Breeze has plans for a base there is another matter.
We are led to believe that akin to a 321 XLR, the 220 could offer similar unit costs to a widebody. With 12 business seats, and a selective network, I could see them carving a niche.
On that size of aircraft I'd like to see Belfast getting another shot at a transatlantic route.
White Plains (Westchester) had been previously mentioned for a Dublin route. Very plausible with current pre clearance facilities in Dublin. Though whether Breeze has plans for a base there is another matter.
We are led to believe that akin to a 321 XLR, the 220 could offer similar unit costs to a widebody. With 12 business seats, and a selective network, I could see them carving a niche.
On that size of aircraft I'd like to see Belfast getting another shot at a transatlantic route.
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If Breeze can time it right, with good connections out of their PVD/BDL bases, with a sensible TATL build up, it could work. Perhaps summer seasonal flights from DUB/SNN/EDI/MAN. I believe London is pushing the range of the A220?
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Isn't their whole business plan based on connecting underserved secondary markets? Should be serving the regions - NCL, GLA, BRS, BFS, BHX etc to secondary airports in major markets of the US northeast, doesn't even necessarily need to be high frequency or year round. Don't see the point or the profit margins flying already congested LON, DUB or EDI. Infact it was a proven failure when Norwegian done it.
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Air Canada pre-covid previously operated an Airbus A319 between St John's, Newfoundland to London Heathrow. From March 2021 the route was resumed with a Boeing 737 MAX. Air Canada are currently not operating St John's to London Heathrow.
Halifax, Nova Scotia to London Heathrow was previously operated by an Air Canada Boeing 767. The route is currently flown by a Boeing 737 MAX.
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They applied for and were denied slots in DUB already.....
https://www.fm104.ie/news/fm104-news...passenger-cap/
https://www.fm104.ie/news/fm104-news...passenger-cap/
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White Plains (Westchester) had been previously mentioned for a Dublin route
The airline was ok and the airplane was great but Westchester Airport was a horrible experience, cramped, dirty, no facilities, crowded and sh!tty.
Doubt they have Immigration and Customs for International ops, except across the runway where a bunch of Gulfstream Jets and other VIP metal was parked.
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I flew Breeze on the A220-300 recently to and from Westchester Airport. (From DAB)
The airline was ok and the airplane was great but Westchester Airport was a horrible experience, cramped, dirty, no facilities, crowded and sh!tty.
Doubt they have Immigration and Customs for International ops, except across the runway where a bunch of Gulfstream Jets and other VIP metal was parked.
The airline was ok and the airplane was great but Westchester Airport was a horrible experience, cramped, dirty, no facilities, crowded and sh!tty.
Doubt they have Immigration and Customs for International ops, except across the runway where a bunch of Gulfstream Jets and other VIP metal was parked.
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Haven’t flown those destinations since mid 1990s, US Custom and Immigration there? (I vaguely remember the Pre-Check in Shannon)
Not a problem in that case, but Westchester Airport is still a mess, highly not recommended..
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What's possible and what's economically viable are very different things of course.
They've already broken cover and applied for DUB slots so that's where my money is.
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Full US CBP in DUB and SNN. You walk off the plane in the US as a domestic passenger, no checks. A minimal facility is required at the receiving end.
What's possible and what's economically viable are very different things of course.
They've already broken cover and applied for DUB slots so that's where my money is.
What's possible and what's economically viable are very different things of course.
They've already broken cover and applied for DUB slots so that's where my money is.
No idea if the market is there to sustain an oddball route like this one.
The A220-300 was ok in FC for 3 hours, with drinks and a basket of cookies and popcorn, no idea if the galleys are equipped for hot meals across the Atlantic but if I was traveling to Ireland I would probably call Air Lingus.