TAP CEO C O-W is sacked
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I could never work out the need for the final change to the non descript purple livery.
Flybe didn't fail because of a lack of brand, I didn't like the full purple to begin with but it gave the airline a clear identity.
Flybe didn't fail because of a lack of brand, I didn't like the full purple to begin with but it gave the airline a clear identity.
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I was told on good authority that her tie up with Eastern cost flybe £1m a month in losses.
Dont forget the lighting up of BHX ATC Tower. That'll sell tickets.
I also heard that on board service was losing £9m year.
Oh. Selling tickets for £25 when nearest competitor is £100.
Someone with a GCSE in dog washing could have done a better job
Dont forget the lighting up of BHX ATC Tower. That'll sell tickets.
I also heard that on board service was losing £9m year.
Oh. Selling tickets for £25 when nearest competitor is £100.
Someone with a GCSE in dog washing could have done a better job
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As someone who was made redundant in the early hours of March 5th 2020.. THAT woman has a lot to answer for.
Useful as a chocolate fireguard!
Met her on few occasions.. sorry but she is not leader material.
Useful as a chocolate fireguard!
Met her on few occasions.. sorry but she is not leader material.
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To be fair, this type of selling was brought in by Saad when they adopted an Easyjet style of pricing (with a lot of ex-Easy staff). It stopped for a year when they got someone in who knew how to price properly and coincidentally went on to record their one and only year's profit in their history. That stopped when they left and they reverted to "Easy" pricing. You can only price like an easyjet if your aircraft are a certain size or bigger, not when your max capacity is 118 seats and the majority 78....
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Wasn't that profit under Saad due to flogging the Gatwick slots rather than the pricing?
As useless as COW was I think Flybe was beyond saving. She did absolutely nothing to change that, but nor did anyone in the decade prior.
They were literally unable to control their fleet size, they were way too big for their ops due to the contracts they signed. So they ended up flying aircraft in the hope to try and limit losses when they needed to be parked up and the contracts ripped up.
As useless as COW was I think Flybe was beyond saving. She did absolutely nothing to change that, but nor did anyone in the decade prior.
They were literally unable to control their fleet size, they were way too big for their ops due to the contracts they signed. So they ended up flying aircraft in the hope to try and limit losses when they needed to be parked up and the contracts ripped up.
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Wasn't that profit under Saad due to flogging the Gatwick slots rather than the pricing?
As useless as COW was I think Flybe was beyond saving. She did absolutely nothing to change that, but nor did anyone in the decade prior.
They were literally unable to control their fleet size, they were way too big for their ops due to the contracts they signed. So they ended up flying aircraft in the hope to try and limit losses when they needed to be parked up and the contracts ripped up.
As useless as COW was I think Flybe was beyond saving. She did absolutely nothing to change that, but nor did anyone in the decade prior.
They were literally unable to control their fleet size, they were way too big for their ops due to the contracts they signed. So they ended up flying aircraft in the hope to try and limit losses when they needed to be parked up and the contracts ripped up.
Think you each may be talking about two different points in time. Flybe was serving JER, GCI, BHD, IOM, INV, NQY and NCL (I think) back in 2013 and sold all of its Gatwick slots to easyJet for £20m and left Gatwick in March 2014 as a result.
It subsequently picked up some more Gatwick slots after the sale for the Newquay route and PSO.
None of this detracts from the core subject of CO-W’s uselessness though.
Of many, the one that surprised me the most was an episode on a Q400. Flybe had reasonably strict rules about use of personal headphones during the safety demo and critical phases of flight, intended so that you could hear the demo and any commands from the crew. Their prerogative.
CO-W on board one day with her earphones in. Cabin crew placed in the position of wondering what best to do, and correctly decided to ask her to remove the earphones as they would for any other passenger. CO-W just looked at the SCCM, said “no, I won’t be doing that” and put her earphones back in.
Unbelievable, really. How to undermine your own company’s safety policy in one easy step.
It subsequently picked up some more Gatwick slots after the sale for the Newquay route and PSO.
None of this detracts from the core subject of CO-W’s uselessness though.
Of many, the one that surprised me the most was an episode on a Q400. Flybe had reasonably strict rules about use of personal headphones during the safety demo and critical phases of flight, intended so that you could hear the demo and any commands from the crew. Their prerogative.
CO-W on board one day with her earphones in. Cabin crew placed in the position of wondering what best to do, and correctly decided to ask her to remove the earphones as they would for any other passenger. CO-W just looked at the SCCM, said “no, I won’t be doing that” and put her earphones back in.
Unbelievable, really. How to undermine your own company’s safety policy in one easy step.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nut_rage_incident
For the avoidance of doubt... the reference in the case of Flybe is very much a dramatic tongue-in-cheek, but the idea is about what capacity airline senior management may have over the ability to override or ignore safety related operational instructions from crew on a particular flight
For the avoidance of doubt... the reference in the case of Flybe is very much a dramatic tongue-in-cheek, but the idea is about what capacity airline senior management may have over the ability to override or ignore safety related operational instructions from crew on a particular flight
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This was under the radar. Sounds like Flybe.
https://www.portugalresident.com/tap...ssing-scandal/
https://www.portugalresident.com/tap...ssing-scandal/
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Her business decisions. She seemed to have a talent for setting out plans, initiatives etc which were clearly going cause problems and costs as opposed to spending time and energy at the coal face fixing stuff.
In no particular order…
Insisting on hand baggage passing through a gauge at the gate and charging £50 for a fail. Many of theses devices appeared to be of slightly different sizes leading to upsets for day return pax.
Designing and painting a new colour scheme on a -8 which was a bland rehash of the purple scheme thus leading to 3 separate schemes in service- at a cost of 10s of thousands.
Failing to control crew costs where obvious wins were a simple instruction away - example;- using expensive taxis to move standby crew between bases but failing to co-ordinate flight and cabin crew requirements thus formations of taxis heading along the motorway with single occupants
I could go on
In no particular order…
Insisting on hand baggage passing through a gauge at the gate and charging £50 for a fail. Many of theses devices appeared to be of slightly different sizes leading to upsets for day return pax.
Designing and painting a new colour scheme on a -8 which was a bland rehash of the purple scheme thus leading to 3 separate schemes in service- at a cost of 10s of thousands.
Failing to control crew costs where obvious wins were a simple instruction away - example;- using expensive taxis to move standby crew between bases but failing to co-ordinate flight and cabin crew requirements thus formations of taxis heading along the motorway with single occupants
I could go on
I have to say though I’ve not heard anything positive on this one in the industry. Personally I can’t comment on her decision making - ultimately she sits at the top and the buck stops with her but equally you are relying on the information, data, stats and numbers presented to her being accurate. So it could be less her decision making but her lack of ability to question, unpick, scrutinise and interrogate the information she uses to form her decisions.
Who knows! But what is known is that this will have some short term coverage until she steps in to another airline who haven’t done their homework.
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Everyone has their ceiling and hopefully she’s reached hers. After having had the misfortune to attend a dinner where she had a golden opportunity to pass on her vision of the future to all the senior trainers, she sat in the corner looking bored and said nothing. She wouldn’t know “Leadership” if it jumped up and punched her on the nose. Personally I wouldn’t employ her to run a public convenience.
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Portuguese airline TAP swings to profit earlier than expected | Reuters
Don't get me wrong, I'm no major fan of the lady myself.....but just for balance, there is always another side to the story. It may be more coincidence but perhaps not an entirely unsuccessful tenure.
Don't get me wrong, I'm no major fan of the lady myself.....but just for balance, there is always another side to the story. It may be more coincidence but perhaps not an entirely unsuccessful tenure.
To be fair, this type of selling was brought in by Saad when they adopted an Easyjet style of pricing (with a lot of ex-Easy staff). It stopped for a year when they got someone in who knew how to price properly and coincidentally went on to record their one and only year's profit in their history. That stopped when they left and they reverted to "Easy" pricing. You can only price like an easyjet if your aircraft are a certain size or bigger, not when your max capacity is 118 seats and the majority 78....
Seems like the massive fall in the £ due to a political event during their last year of profit must have had a significant effect on an airline whose income came mainly in £’s but significant outgoings were in $’s.
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Flybe on board sales. I now work for a company who sells on board drinks and snacks for about half what Flybe were charging… and sell shed loads. Granted it’s longer flights. But pushing a trolley from one end of a Q400 to the other on an hour’s flight to make £2.60 was never going to generate cash flow. Overpriced and poor value.
I agree with other comments, the crew camaraderie was unmatched. I miss my time there but so glad I got out when I did.
I agree with other comments, the crew camaraderie was unmatched. I miss my time there but so glad I got out when I did.
