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Old 5th Jul 2023, 15:20
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He seems to reply to most LinkedIn comments except for those asking him about his AOC and slots.
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Old 5th Jul 2023, 15:23
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Originally Posted by Smooth Airperator
He seems to reply to most LinkedIn comments except for those asking him about his AOC and slots.
Funny that.... he claims in his plan that he has both his AOC and his OL. For the avoidance of doubt - no flying aircraft means no AOC. No AOC means no OL. No OL means no slots....

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Old 5th Jul 2023, 16:53
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Heh Heh, Lord Bracken. If you know a sure way to reach the IT Director, please publish it here so that we can all enlighten him {I expect it is a him}
They have an IT director!?
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Old 5th Jul 2023, 20:23
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Originally Posted by Lord Bracken
They have an IT director!?
Thank you for the best laugh I've had in a while. Just tried to book a flight with BA from London to Cyprus, and the flight it offered was London to Istanbul. Yeesh.... in this part of the world, that's how small wars start
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Old 12th Jul 2023, 15:13
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Road to Damascus?

A slight back pedalling from SimplisticFlying….

Global Analysis

But calling this “in depth” is laughable….

Still, at least someone is starting to ask hard but sensible questions….
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Old 12th Jul 2023, 16:26
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Rumour is Malev flies it with its A346s.
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Old 13th Jul 2023, 04:55
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Rumour is Malev flies it with its A346s.
You mean Maleth surely ?
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Old 13th Jul 2023, 13:05
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Yes. Darned autocorrect!
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Old 13th Jul 2023, 13:22
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Probably as much chance of Malev operating as Global.🤨
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Old 13th Jul 2023, 13:27
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How would that work from a licencing point of view?
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Old 13th Jul 2023, 14:50
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Originally Posted by Big Tudor
Probably as much chance of Malev operating as Global.🤨
Totally true!

But Asquith hasn't realised yet.

At some point someone is going to have to sit him down and tell the young man the facts of flight --- the birds, the bees, and the regulatory regime for international air transport.

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Old 13th Jul 2023, 19:02
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
How would that work from a licencing point of view?
If Global wanted to do this they would do it as effectively a charter. The aircraft would be on the usual operator's AOC and OL. Global would take the ticket risk and would need an ATOL, but not an AOC or an OL. Not that hard tbh.

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Old 13th Jul 2023, 19:27
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But an EU AOC between the UK and US?

And who's operating pax A.346's? LH, Mahan and Conviasa?
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Old 13th Jul 2023, 19:31
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Both the UK and the EU have separate open sky agreements with the US. But that wouldn't allow a UK carrier to operate say CDG to JFK, or an EU carrier to operate LGW to JFK. It could't even be done as a fifth freedom service, since that isn't allowed between the EU and UK since Brexit.

If an A340 is mandatory (and why would it be?) then it would have to be a UK operator that has one. However, dispensations are possible in very specific circumstances, although these would be unlikely to be long term.
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Old 13th Jul 2023, 19:41
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I can't see either the UK or US acceptig ths sort of arrangement other than as a short term measure while a UK AOC is being obtained. Or maybe Mr Stoddard would help out - for a price...

Anyway, bit different from a fleet of A.380's.
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Old 14th Jul 2023, 07:49
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"Anyway, bit different from a fleet of A.380's"

No - do what Virgin would do - paint "A380- Mini" on the side..........................
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Old 15th Jul 2023, 15:58
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More comic capers from Global...

https://www.cityam.com/global-airlin...n-uk-us-route/
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Old 15th Jul 2023, 16:24
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As far as I see it I don’t think that anyone’s really offering the complete package to a corporate traveller, who would be going across the pond,” James Asquith, Global Airlines’ CEO, told City A.M.
Really? Given the desperation of carriers {on both sides of the pond} to secure C traffic, he must have his head down a dark passage.
As many have said, this scheme does not even pass the first sanity test.

C traffic is very difficult to tempt away from established carriers. Financially, Europe is not in expansion mode and both the UK and USA are in financial straits. I don't see any European originating traffic choosing to abandon their home country carrier and all the accrued points.

In the late 80s, I was working in the City and our department moved wholesale to VS and their UC. Our boss, an American, admitted that the VS product was considerably better than Pan Am but he had to stay with their mileage to take his family on holiday. I'm not sure much has changed.
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Old 15th Jul 2023, 16:29
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Originally Posted by PAXboy
Really? Given the desperation of carriers {on both sides of the pond} to secure C traffic, he must have his head down a dark passage.
As many have said, this scheme does not even pass the first sanity test.

C traffic is very difficult to tempt away from established carriers. Financially, Europe is not in expansion mode and both the UK and USA are in financial straits. I don't see any European originating traffic choosing to abandon their home country carrier and all the accrued points.

In the late 80s, I was working in the City and our department moved wholesale to VS and their UC. Our boss, an American, admitted that the VS product was considerably better than Pan Am but he had to stay with their mileage to take his family on holiday. I'm not sure much has changed.
I think the amount of ‘burning’ of miles to places like the Caribbean, Maldives and Mauritius shows it’s as rife as ever!
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Old 15th Jul 2023, 18:23
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Maybe these are just distraction tactics to divert attention from the real market disrupting idea waiting to be unleashed....
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