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Road to Damascus?
A slight back pedalling from SimplisticFlying….
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But calling this “in depth” is laughable….
Still, at least someone is starting to ask hard but sensible questions….
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But calling this “in depth” is laughable….
Still, at least someone is starting to ask hard but sensible questions….
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Totally true!
But Asquith hasn't realised yet.
At some point someone is going to have to sit him down and tell the young man the facts of flight --- the birds, the bees, and the regulatory regime for international air transport.
But Asquith hasn't realised yet.
At some point someone is going to have to sit him down and tell the young man the facts of flight --- the birds, the bees, and the regulatory regime for international air transport.
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If Global wanted to do this they would do it as effectively a charter. The aircraft would be on the usual operator's AOC and OL. Global would take the ticket risk and would need an ATOL, but not an AOC or an OL. Not that hard tbh.
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Both the UK and the EU have separate open sky agreements with the US. But that wouldn't allow a UK carrier to operate say CDG to JFK, or an EU carrier to operate LGW to JFK. It could't even be done as a fifth freedom service, since that isn't allowed between the EU and UK since Brexit.
If an A340 is mandatory (and why would it be?) then it would have to be a UK operator that has one. However, dispensations are possible in very specific circumstances, although these would be unlikely to be long term.
If an A340 is mandatory (and why would it be?) then it would have to be a UK operator that has one. However, dispensations are possible in very specific circumstances, although these would be unlikely to be long term.
I can't see either the UK or US acceptig ths sort of arrangement other than as a short term measure while a UK AOC is being obtained. Or maybe Mr Stoddard would help out - for a price...
Anyway, bit different from a fleet of A.380's.
Anyway, bit different from a fleet of A.380's.
"Anyway, bit different from a fleet of A.380's"
No - do what Virgin would do - paint "A380- Mini" on the side..........................
No - do what Virgin would do - paint "A380- Mini" on the side..........................
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Paxing All Over The World
As far as I see it I don’t think that anyone’s really offering the complete package to a corporate traveller, who would be going across the pond,” James Asquith, Global Airlines’ CEO, told City A.M.
As many have said, this scheme does not even pass the first sanity test.
C traffic is very difficult to tempt away from established carriers. Financially, Europe is not in expansion mode and both the UK and USA are in financial straits. I don't see any European originating traffic choosing to abandon their home country carrier and all the accrued points.
In the late 80s, I was working in the City and our department moved wholesale to VS and their UC. Our boss, an American, admitted that the VS product was considerably better than Pan Am but he had to stay with their mileage to take his family on holiday. I'm not sure much has changed.
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Really? Given the desperation of carriers {on both sides of the pond} to secure C traffic, he must have his head down a dark passage.
As many have said, this scheme does not even pass the first sanity test.
C traffic is very difficult to tempt away from established carriers. Financially, Europe is not in expansion mode and both the UK and USA are in financial straits. I don't see any European originating traffic choosing to abandon their home country carrier and all the accrued points.
In the late 80s, I was working in the City and our department moved wholesale to VS and their UC. Our boss, an American, admitted that the VS product was considerably better than Pan Am but he had to stay with their mileage to take his family on holiday. I'm not sure much has changed.
As many have said, this scheme does not even pass the first sanity test.
C traffic is very difficult to tempt away from established carriers. Financially, Europe is not in expansion mode and both the UK and USA are in financial straits. I don't see any European originating traffic choosing to abandon their home country carrier and all the accrued points.
In the late 80s, I was working in the City and our department moved wholesale to VS and their UC. Our boss, an American, admitted that the VS product was considerably better than Pan Am but he had to stay with their mileage to take his family on holiday. I'm not sure much has changed.