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So no European airlines have failed then, as they are in the EU? Brexit is always the reason brought up by remoaners while they are happy to ignore the impact of Covid, which hasn’t had a mention here yet Covid has brought aviation to its knees.
On the more positive side, aviation jobs at airports are seeing big wage rises due to the end of limitless supplies of cheap foreign labour by people always willing to undercut the locals.
Seems this thread has been hijacked by the normal suspects who need another outlet apart from jet blast.
On the more positive side, aviation jobs at airports are seeing big wage rises due to the end of limitless supplies of cheap foreign labour by people always willing to undercut the locals.
Seems this thread has been hijacked by the normal suspects who need another outlet apart from jet blast.
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I don’t believe ‘remoaners’ have ignored other factors. The problem is the ‘believers’ don’t acknowledge negative impacts of Brexit no matter if it’s contributory or the entire cause. “No downsides only considerable upsides” and all that…
This is the Jota thread. Anybody got evidence that Jota's demise was caused by Brexit? If not, you'll find an endless loop of similarly entrenched views in Jetblast 
So no European airlines have failed then, as they are in the EU? Brexit is always the reason brought up by remoaners while they are happy to ignore the impact of Covid, which hasn’t had a mention here yet Covid has brought aviation to its knees.
On the more positive side, aviation jobs at airports are seeing big wage rises due to the end of limitless supplies of cheap foreign labour by people always willing to undercut the locals.
Seems this thread has been hijacked by the normal suspects who need another outlet apart from jet blast.
On the more positive side, aviation jobs at airports are seeing big wage rises due to the end of limitless supplies of cheap foreign labour by people always willing to undercut the locals.
Seems this thread has been hijacked by the normal suspects who need another outlet apart from jet blast.
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Wow, guess I should have known not to have brought Brexit up. Let me make it clear that Jota themselves mentioned the fall out from Brexit many months ago as a reason they were struggling to get work due to not being on a level playing field with the European freight operators. Maybe the article can still be found.
let me also make it clear that I am not against Brexit but even if I was a remainer the decision has been made and we all just need to move on. There are always going to be teething problems especially when your ex business partner wants to make sure none of its other business partners get any ideas about leaving it’s conglomerate. Over time the UK will chip away at the EU. Hopefully whatever the disparity is with air cargo will be one of the things they work on. It seems other airlines have opened subsidiaries based on the continent and re-registered aircraft accordingly so perhaps that could have been a solution for Jota but I am no expert.
let me also make it clear that I am not against Brexit but even if I was a remainer the decision has been made and we all just need to move on. There are always going to be teething problems especially when your ex business partner wants to make sure none of its other business partners get any ideas about leaving it’s conglomerate. Over time the UK will chip away at the EU. Hopefully whatever the disparity is with air cargo will be one of the things they work on. It seems other airlines have opened subsidiaries based on the continent and re-registered aircraft accordingly so perhaps that could have been a solution for Jota but I am no expert.
Wow, guess I should have known not to have brought Brexit up. Let me make it clear that Jota themselves mentioned the fall out from Brexit many months ago as a reason they were struggling to get work due to not being on a level playing field with the European freight operators. Maybe the article can still be found.
let me also make it clear that I am not against Brexit but even if I was a remainer the decision has been made and we all just need to move on. There are always going to be teething problems especially when your ex business partner wants to make sure none of its other business partners get any ideas about leaving it’s conglomerate. Over time the UK will chip away at the EU. Hopefully whatever the disparity is with air cargo will be one of the things they work on. It seems other airlines have opened subsidiaries based on the continent and re-registered aircraft accordingly so perhaps that could have been a solution for Jota but I am no expert.
let me also make it clear that I am not against Brexit but even if I was a remainer the decision has been made and we all just need to move on. There are always going to be teething problems especially when your ex business partner wants to make sure none of its other business partners get any ideas about leaving it’s conglomerate. Over time the UK will chip away at the EU. Hopefully whatever the disparity is with air cargo will be one of the things they work on. It seems other airlines have opened subsidiaries based on the continent and re-registered aircraft accordingly so perhaps that could have been a solution for Jota but I am no expert.
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Not really like with like though is it. Companies with vast fleets and resources operating extensively across a continent v a small niche carrier with a handful of planes with a head office staffed my one man and his dog.
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They do indeed. However, first page of their final statements on companies house mentions they won a cargo contract only to be told they weren't getting it because of Brexit. They also blame the uncertainty and disruption to the airline because of Brexit.
Obviously other factors also involved but Covid and Brexit played their part.
Obviously other factors also involved but Covid and Brexit played their part.
They do indeed. However, first page of their final statements on companies house mentions they won a cargo contract only to be told they weren't getting it because of Brexit. They also blame the uncertainty and disruption to the airline because of Brexit.
Obviously other factors also involved but Covid and Brexit played their part.
Obviously other factors also involved but Covid and Brexit played their part.
Not that that helps one iota with the plight of those of their employees who's lives have been turned upside down by the demise of the business.
More than a little irony in that a business owned by an rabid Brexiteer has to lay at least part of the blame of their business's demise on their own pet project.
Not that that helps one iota with the plight of those of their employees who's lives have been turned upside down by the demise of the business.
Not that that helps one iota with the plight of those of their employees who's lives have been turned upside down by the demise of the business.
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What like pay rises due to a lack of cheap labour? People would blame Brexit if unemployment was high just like they blame Brexit for a labour shortage. Whatever the issue they will blame Brexit. So how many U.K. airlines failed during U.K. EU membership? Would JOTA still be with us if we remained inside. I suspect they would still have failed.