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Old 26th Feb 2022, 10:43
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Most of Aeroflot's fleet is Bermudan reg'd. Surely action can be taken (maybe it already is) to remove C of A's etc?
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Old 26th Feb 2022, 10:48
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Most are leased, Aeocap a big player, being Irish based then if any planes hit EU soil then they could be impounded?
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Old 26th Feb 2022, 12:19
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All three Baltic States have now joined the UK, Poland, Czechia and Bulgaria in banning Russia the access to their airspace. Locally it will mean e.g. traveling from Moscow to Königsberg (Kaliningrad) via Gulf of Finland.

Only came to my mind: would they dare to just ignore that and use the Lithuanian airspace in spite of that?

Right now I can see Aeroflot SU2467 flying to SVO via Germany (and still Lithuania), soon this flight too will have to use this Northern route.

Btw. Germany, wake up, do what you should have done already.
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Old 26th Feb 2022, 14:06
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Originally Posted by eu01
All three Baltic States have now joined the UK, Poland, Czechia and Bulgaria in banning Russia the access to their airspace. Locally it will mean e.g. traveling from Moscow to Königsberg (Kaliningrad) via Gulf of Finland.

Only came to my mind: would they dare to just ignore that and use the Lithuanian airspace in spite of that?

Right now I can see Aeroflot SU2467 flying to SVO via Germany (and still Lithuania), soon this flight too will have to use this Northern route.

Btw. Germany, wake up, do what you should have done already.
I don’t think anyone is stupid enough to start ignoring such restrictions. That way lies Russian planes being shot out the sky.
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Old 26th Feb 2022, 15:27
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I don’t think anyone is stupid enough to start ignoring such restrictions. That way lies Russian planes being shot out the sky.
Quite so. The Baltic States' ban has been announced, but not yet implemented.
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Old 26th Feb 2022, 15:38
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Ukraine invasion: More countries issue airspace ban on Russian planes https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60539303
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Old 26th Feb 2022, 19:01
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Some very interesting activity currently over Russian airspace, it looks like Lufthansa and DHL aircraft are being denied and are being turned around well into Russian airspace.
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Old 26th Feb 2022, 19:12
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LH Frankfurt-Tokyo turned around over Estonia and is now landing in Berlin. LH Munich-Seoul is returning to west from over Perm.
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Old 26th Feb 2022, 19:23
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LH Frankfurt-Tokyo turned around over Estonia and is now landing in Berlin. LH Munich-Seoul is returning to west from over Perm.
DHL turned back and is currently over the Estonian border.
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Old 26th Feb 2022, 19:42
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Even Russian domestic flights are now avoiding the Russian/Ukraine border area. The closest seem to be tracking between the Caspian Sea, Samara and Moscow.
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Old 26th Feb 2022, 20:19
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I’ll put money on the whole of EU Airspace being closed to Russian aircraft with in the next 12-24 hrs.
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Old 26th Feb 2022, 21:25
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Germany talking of an airspace ban. Not bad for a country that has been weak on Russia. When Russians cannot head out of their country for their summer beach holidays then they will be directly impacted. So will Spain and particularly Italy and Turkey introduce a ban?

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Old 26th Feb 2022, 22:04
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Whole EU is expected to ban all Russian Flights/Aircraft very soon
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Old 26th Feb 2022, 22:29
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Whole EU is expected to ban all Russian Flights/Aircraft very soon
I think they will wait until SU2549 TFS-SVO passes into Russian airspace, it is currently Between Spain and France and would have to land in the EU if not allowed to continue to SVO.
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 08:18
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"Finland is preparing to close airspace from Russian air traffic."
Timo Harakka, Finnish Minister of Transport & Communications on Twitter today.
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 08:32
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And yet Russian airlines with rich holidaymakers (no doubt with wallets full of $ rather than soon-to-be-worthless roubles) still apparently welcome in Canada & U.S.

Aeroflot110 currently en route to MIA, and others all day up & down the East Coast airways en route to/from Caribbean - most odd?
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 08:46
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Ukraine invasion: Russian planes face near-total airspace ban to west https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60539303
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 10:28
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Ukraine invasion: Russian planes face near-total airspace ban to west https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60539303
I know it not the Russian people who invaded but I feel a bit uncomfortable seeing holiday makers from Russia jetting of to Spanish beaches at the same time Ukrainian people are sheltering in subways or fleeing the country.
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 10:48
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Not just Spain. Egypt used to welcome Ukraine citizens but still the Russians, ok with extended routing, are arriving. I have seen the TUI wave often arrive, park up at Hungarda next to S7 arrivals. The potential for a flash point in the terminal let alone the hotel beaches.
Maybe the Russian planes are arriving empty, I don't know?
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 10:52
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Especially when half of them don`t even know about it
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