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Old 10th May 2024, 22:48
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Jason Scales Trial

For anyone not following the trial. The trial has collapsed. Jason Scales remains on bail.
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Old 11th May 2024, 10:29
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Originally Posted by runway30
For anyone not following the trial. The trial has collapsed. Jason Scales remains on bail.
I'd been following it in the early stages, however the date of the trial kept on being moved back and I lost track of it, so thanks for sharing this update.

https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/frau...aborted-687491

More details from the trial: https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/frau...as-fake-685451

I wonder if they're able to do another trial at some point in the future, hence the reason why Mr Scales has remained on bail...?!
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Old 11th May 2024, 11:02
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Originally Posted by jmdavies86
I'd been following it in the early stages, however the date of the trial kept on being moved back and I lost track of it, so thanks for sharing this update.

https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/frau...aborted-687491

More details from the trial: https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/frau...as-fake-685451

I wonder if they're able to do another trial at some point in the future, hence the reason why Mr Scales has remained on bail...?!
As it is still a live case we are not supposed to speculate.

The facts as reported, Mr. Scales started to give his evidence and then sacked his advocate so I think we can draw our own conclusions.

You would expect there will be an update on how the case is going to proceed at some point in the future.
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of all the commercial hairbrain schemes, Global, Doncaster etc, its the one little off-the-wall venture I wish had built up- ideally for inbound Lake District tourism and maybe still a regional connector to London. Punters routinely pay £200+ to StornowayÖ
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Because the alternative is an incredible drive/train journey THEN a ferry that's likely to be canceled - the Lake District isn't a really long drive from any of the UK's major population centres and is just off main N-S rail and road links.
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AW Jenkinson have now taken over Carlisle Airport, and have pledged £5m of investment in the airport.

The article doesnt really say much, this is the main point of interest:

"The site will continue to operate as an aerodrome and it is intended that, subject to planning permission, at least £5m of investment will be made into the site, creating quality sustainable jobs and providing the site with a long-term economic purpose, which also addresses the grant previously received by the airport pre-Covid," a spokesperson said.
https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/2...trict-airport/

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Old 24th May 2024, 15:47
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Oh well.here we go again !

Some people have money to burn!🔥
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Old 24th May 2024, 18:44
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This from the BBC about take over

New airport owner pledges £5m investment https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2jjvee59d8o
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It seems a remarkable coincidence that the airport has been taken over by a trucking company with interests in forestry products too - so trucks, forestry and airports together once more. Thatís a unique mix, but here we are for a second time. Is Andrew Tinkler in the back of this somewhere ?
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Old 24th May 2024, 21:56
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Given where Carlisle is, not that surprising
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Old 25th May 2024, 08:22
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Originally Posted by Flightrider
It seems a remarkable coincidence that the airport has been taken over by a trucking company with interests in forestry products too - so trucks, forestry and airports together once more. Thatís a unique mix, but here we are for a second time. Is Andrew Tinkler in the back of this somewhere ?
Stobart Group purchased AW Jenkinson Biomass which became Stobart Biomass around the time of the purchase of Southend Airport. The Biomass business was sold about 2 years ago prior to Eskin going into Administration.
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Old 25th May 2024, 10:28
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Jason Scales Trial

Meanwhile a previous saviour of the airport is going to have a new trial early next year.
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Old 25th May 2024, 10:50
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I am not stupid. This is all about restoring a twice daily service between Carlisle and London Southend with Dublin and Belfast thrown in for good measure.
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Old 26th May 2024, 10:39
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Would love to see the Belfast route back but in a just supposing world, who would operate it now that LM have parted ways with the Saab ?
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Old 26th May 2024, 11:35
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Originally Posted by Alteagod
Would love to see the Belfast route back but in a just supposing world, who would operate it now that LM have parted ways with the Saab ?
Eastern? 😂
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A route to use the BAe Jetstream 41 on?
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Old 26th May 2024, 12:35
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Originally Posted by LTNman
This from the BBC about take over

New airport owner pledges £5m investment https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2jjvee59d8o
£5m isn't going to last long when considering re-licensing the aerodrome (£12996 fee to CAA for J41 type ops), establishment of an ATC Unit (minimum CAA fee £14300) and manning it (minimum 3-4 ATCOs with ADI/APP ratings for 7 day ops (anyone heard of the current UK ATCO shortage?), aerodrome ground lighting re-furbished/installed, instrument approach procedures (GNSS/RNP?), RTF/recording equipment, RFFS appliances to provide for J41 ops and competent staff to man them.

Then consider the paperwork to submit with CAA applications, Aerodrome Manual/Emergency Orders/SMS/ATC Unit Safety Case, MATS Pt 2 etc. People who write them don't come cheap!

All that spent airside, then consider what is needed landside to meet current security legislation.

Before this all starts, what guarantee that any operator would want to operate outside controlled airspace (aka bandit country!) and could come up with a risk assessment to achieve a tolerable risk level. Suggest that APS will be required to achieve that, either in house or contracted out? Not cheap.

This has many parallels with another thread currently running, Global Airlines?
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Old 26th May 2024, 12:46
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Carlisle is ideal for the shooting season and has been used for a number of military exercises. If you add more GA it would make a good start without any of the above.
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Old 26th May 2024, 12:57
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There's no suggestion that the new owners are interested in airline services returning.

Pure speculation.
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Old 26th May 2024, 13:08
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TCAS Fan and SWBKCB are spot on..cast your minds back to the original rumours that Sobarts idea was to have a new logistics centre , using the bait of a local airport to help subsidise and get their plans through.It was pretty obvious to all..so here is it…take 2!
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