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Old 21st Mar 2022, 16:06
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Originally Posted by cavokblues View Post
On their latest financial statement to Companies House Eastern, make a statement that their directors believe 'due to the use of fuel efficient turbo-prop aircraft they enjoy a competitive advantage over the rest of the industry.'

Shame they always seem to shirk a direct fist fight for bums on seats.
That will be up against BE mk2 who will also have a competitive advantage using the Q400. There will only ever be one winner there!
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Old 21st Mar 2022, 19:34
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[QUOTE=cornishsimon;11203295]I just wonder if they have got wind of a new route announcement by flybe mk2

Could this be why the CWL-BHD-CWL route re-start has been delayed again ?

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Old 21st Mar 2022, 20:11
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Originally Posted by virginblue View Post
Would that be allowed under the PSO contract terms for the thrice daily NQY-LGW service? Operating the aircraft (or even basing it) elsewhere increases the risk of operational disruptions which is something those paying for the PSO-party are most likely not very enthusiastic about.
As is often the case with PSO routes, there are a broad range of requirements that can be put into the terms of the contract.

Basing an aircraft at a different airport and flying it into another in order to operate a PSO route would certainly increase the risk of possible disruption(s), but as far as I'm aware the operator is technically free to do/use the aircraft as they see fit. Obviously the load factor and/or punctuality of the flights will be closely monitored and a warning/sanction may well be issued; I also assume that in the worse case scenario, a PSO contract (or certainly the funding made available) can also potentially be withdrawn if/when an operator is seen to be constantly under-delivering on the contracted requirement(s).
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 10:11
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New fleet addition?

An ATR ferried to EXT this week with an Eastern Airways callsign "EZE041E" , it's now been cancelled as exported to the United Kingdom. Possibly due for Eastern Airways?
https://www.planespotters.net/airfra...capital/roplv1
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 14:09
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They need an extra to cover their summer schedules when they ramp up frequencies - 2x at Southampton and 1x at Newquay for the PSO. Also recruiting for ATR crew at Southampton at the moment so it would add up if it was destined for them...
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 21:46
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Originally Posted by adfly View Post
They need an extra to cover their summer schedules when they ramp up frequencies - 2x at Southampton and 1x at Newquay for the PSO. Also recruiting for ATR crew at Southampton at the moment so it would add up if it was destined for them...
What is the E190 scheduled for?
NQY-LGW, SOU - BHD/DUB/MAN are all on the ATR. There doesn't seem to be any scheduled work for the E190.
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Old 3rd Apr 2022, 06:46
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Originally Posted by caaardiff View Post
What is the E190 scheduled for?
NQY-LGW, SOU - BHD/DUB/MAN are all on the ATR. There doesn't seem to be any scheduled work for the E190.
Sounds like theyíre stuck in a lease with no work for it. Itís a very strange set up. When they had the E170s before, they had expensive contract pilots sitting in hotels for weeks on end with no work as the aircraft sat about doing nothing. Knowing the MD itís probably nothing more than a vanity project which has backfired. It certainly doesnít ďfitĒ with the rest of the company strategy (if there is one)
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Old 3rd Apr 2022, 07:20
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-...mpaign=KARANGA
Government figures showed more than £2.1m has been paid to Eastern Airways since the pandemic started, though no flights were operated.
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Old 3rd Apr 2022, 15:44
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The E190 is on a 'pay as you go' deal with the leasing company and doesn't fly too much otherwise it gets expensive.

Their schedule on sale definitely needs a third ATR and word on the street in Exeter is that the 72-600 arrived on Thursday is indeed for Eastern after a previous lease in Nigeria fell through.
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Old 16th Apr 2022, 13:20
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The E190 is leased from Skyworld Aviation, who have now advertised it for lease again.
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Old 16th Apr 2022, 18:12
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Originally Posted by dannyhill94 View Post
The E190 is leased from Skyworld Aviation, who have now advertised it for lease again.
Do Eastern have any E-Jets left then? What's the demand like for E-Jets?
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Old 16th Apr 2022, 18:27
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Skyworld is the marketing agent and not the owner of that particular aircraft. Kind of like having a letting agent working on behalf of a property landlord. Anyway, the fact itís on the market and the rumours of a fourth ATR72 could well add up to a simplified fleet of ATR and Jetstream 41.
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Old 16th Apr 2022, 18:37
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Thanks Albert Hall. I thought a small 170/175/190/195/380 fleet 🤷‍♂️ might work for Eastern in the AdHoc/ACMI market but it appears not. Dickie has big baws in negotiations though so who knows...
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Old 16th Apr 2022, 18:45
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I suspect some of the problem is many potential charterers wonít work with Eastern. Logan and BA CityFlyer both used JOTA but I donít think youíll see either of them using Eastern until hell has frozen over.
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Old 16th Apr 2022, 18:59
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Having read AAIB reports perhaps BA are misguided/delusional ...
Thanks Albert Hall. I know where you are coming from, but I hope for the the EJet guys/girls work comes in.
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Old 16th Apr 2022, 19:21
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Surely if Eastern are replacing the 190 with a fourth ATR then crews would convert with it ? Or am I missing something Ö?
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Old 16th Apr 2022, 19:24
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I think a lot may depend on your use of the word
Replacement.
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Old 16th Apr 2022, 20:05
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The third ATR 72-600 (G-CMEI)
starts in service tomorrow from Newquay to Gatwick
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Old 18th Apr 2022, 19:38
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Two recent reviews on YouTube describing their Eastern experience as the worst flights ever!

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Old 18th Apr 2022, 21:34
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So both of those guys had a rude flight attendant. But rubbish but it happens to all of us. Not exactly ideal on a small airline like Eastern but ultimately they got them to their destination on time and at a reasonable cost which is what most folk on that route would ask for.
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