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Old 12th Aug 2022, 22:33
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Originally Posted by TimmyW View Post
Wizz are in advanced talks with LBA.

I expect something to be announced shortly after DSA closure is confirmed.
Are LBA's operating hours for ATC/runway/terminal supportive of a Wizz operation... both based around current DSA schedules and also in case of any notable delays?

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Old 13th Aug 2022, 00:27
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The majority PAX on W6 routes are south of the Humber, why would they travel to LBA? Surely HUY is the better alternative to DSA or is HUY management as inept as Peel.
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Old 13th Aug 2022, 07:02
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Originally Posted by AircraftOperations View Post
Are LBA's operating hours for ATC/runway/terminal supportive of a Wizz operation... both based around current DSA schedules and also in case of any notable delays?
About 15(?) Jet2/Ryanair based at the a moment operating around the clock The current Wizz DSA operation would fit between based a/c waves, so shouldn't be a problem
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Old 13th Aug 2022, 07:04
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Are MME not opening a cargo centre?
There's a new one been opened, but doubt it couldn't handle a 747 of fresh produce. I'd have thought BHX would be up for this one? Does anybody know the end destination of the produce flights?
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Old 13th Aug 2022, 07:54
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For me the biggest prize for good jobs would be the 2Exel operation. Teesside has a like for like hangar if FedEx road cargo could be moved.
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Old 13th Aug 2022, 08:08
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For me the biggest prize for good jobs would be the 2Exel operation. Teesside has a like for like hangar if FedEx road cargo could be moved.
I agree, but would the 727's fit?
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Old 13th Aug 2022, 08:40
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I would like to say yes going by what has been in hangar 1. Quite sure Dan Air 727s have been in and definitely, CL 44 guppy and 767 up to the tail.
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Old 13th Aug 2022, 08:59
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Mark Chadwick, Oliver Coppard,

I have been sent your social media comments by email this morning saying that my post is categorically untrue.

Well I'd just like to correct you, my post is factually correct. Chapman freeborn are in active discussions with other airports, one being BHX and the other STN.

You didn't seem to care when I posted that silkways broker was no longer using DSA for their 747 flights, and they cancelled almost 20 flights overnight into DSA following PEELS consultation announcement.

May I suggest, as neither of you work within this industry before shooting the messenger down, telling people im wrong that you actually fact check your facts before posting.

My posts by the way are not designed to be negative against the airport, but to highlight the willingness and proactive work being undertaken by PEEL/DSA management to close this airport.

You should try working with these idiots.
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Old 13th Aug 2022, 09:37
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 View Post
The idea of MME, which has had a stench of death hanging over it for many years, coming to the rescue of pax at DSA seems a bit of a stretch
Re your comment, who were the owners of MME to have allowed it to get to that state?
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Old 13th Aug 2022, 11:23
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Originally Posted by G-FORZ View Post
The majority PAX on W6 routes are south of the Humber, why would they travel to LBA? Surely HUY is the better alternative to DSA or is HUY management as inept as Peel.
Not sure inept is appropriate. No idea what HUY are doing with regards to aviation development (if anything), but they might find that dealing with low cost airlines actually costs them more than having just the KLM and Eastern traffic. Airlines are trying to balance their books at the moment following Covid, and with the ongoing conflicts in Ukraine and an upcoming cost of living crisis/recession, I suspect are being pretty ruthless on airports with regards to landing and handling charges. Only the bigger airports with the critical mass can absorb that cost.
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Old 13th Aug 2022, 11:49
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As I've said earlier all the efforts to save it are a waste of time. The decision has already been made and that's a fact.

And if by some miracle it did stay open, the current operators will still want to shift their offerings away as the place is too tarnished now.
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 07:18
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Originally Posted by TimmyW View Post
As I've said earlier all the efforts to save it are a waste of time. The decision has already been made and that's a fact.

And if by some miracle it did stay open, the current operators will still want to shift their offerings away as the place is too tarnished now.
I wouldn't be so sure....

If the right deal is made that suits all the airport will carry on, albeit it would have to change its modus operandi. It has a far better infrastructure than other airports to offer, just getting the right operators
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 07:43
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Originally Posted by haylo View Post
I wouldn't be so sure....

If the right deal is made that suits all the airport will carry on, albeit it would have to change its modus operandi. It has a far better infrastructure than other airports to offer, just getting the right operators
Is that not the point however, it has been unable to attract the ‘right operators’ and so we have come to this stage!
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 07:48
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Is that not the point however, it has been unable to attract the ‘right operators’ and so we have come to this stage!
By right, I mean additional to current.....or an expansion of the incumbent...

It's always been at 'this stage' also looking for the next thing but just never been able to grab it. Maybe this approach from Peel may be the trigger for essential growth, who really knows...... We will find out soon.
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 09:31
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Originally Posted by haylo View Post
By right, I mean additional to current.....or an expansion of the incumbent...

It's always been at 'this stage' also looking for the next thing but just never been able to grab it. Maybe this approach from Peel may be the trigger for essential growth, who really knows...... We will find out soon.
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The latest letter from the Peel chairman makes things pretty clear. Their decision is already made
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 13:43
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As someone with no parochial interest, I find this a disaster of regional planning. The area East of the Pennines and North of the Trent should have a single airport capable of handling all sizes of aircraft from regional to large cargo, and reasonably accessible from all directions. LBA can never fill that role, and the investment proposed there would be better spent on building proper facilities at DSA.
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 13:51
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As someone with no parochial interest, I find this a disaster of regional planning. The area East of the Pennines and North of the Trent should have a single airport capable of handling all sizes of aircraft from regional to large cargo, and reasonably accessible from all directions. LBA can never fill that role, and the investment proposed there would be better spent on building proper facilities at DSA.
Communist! or how does that work in a free market?
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 15:13
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I think that you'll find that all other transport infrastructure is centrally planned.
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 15:50
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
Communist! or how does that work in a free market?
I believe that #inOban has it about spot on. There way too many "airports" in England, and consolidating on the "wrong one" could be viewed as yet another infrastructure faux pas. Unfortunately allowing "the market to decide" will likely result in just that. We are extremely good at shooting ourselves in the foot both with regard to infrastructure as well as political dogma.
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 16:52
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And that is exactly what has happened to DSA. Prior to approval many in the aviation business said another airport was not needed.
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