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Old 25th Sep 2022, 11:56
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Originally Posted by stewyb
Reads to me like TUI will pull out although in the meantime talks continue with interested parties to save the airfield site, of which there are many jobs undertaken other than commercial flying
I think there is no point speculating. There is some doubt about whether dsamoleís report is true, and if it is there is time for things to change.

letís see what tomorrow brings.
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Old 25th Sep 2022, 11:57
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Originally Posted by davidjpowell
I think there is no point speculating. There is some doubt about whether dsamoleís report is true, and if it is there is time for things to change.

letís see what tomorrow brings.
Its true. Sadly, he is right again.
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Old 25th Sep 2022, 12:08
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Originally Posted by Alwayslistening
Its true. Sadly, he is right again.
letís wait and see. Even if itís true that Tui are putting in extra support that is just prudent worst case support.

There will be a lot of people who are very worried right now. We donít need to make it any worse for them.

24 hours to go.
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Old 25th Sep 2022, 13:39
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Originally Posted by dsamole
TUI bringing extra staff across to DSA incase "some people are too upset to work" following the meeting on Monday.
dsamole facts are not wholy accurate. Whenever there is a possibility of bad news, airlines will ensure staff impacts are minimal where human performance / human factors may be a risk. That is what is happening here, its contingency planning
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Old 25th Sep 2022, 15:04
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Originally Posted by haylo
dsamole facts are not wholy accurate. Whenever there is a possibility of bad news, airlines will ensure staff impacts are minimal where human performance / human factors may be a risk. That is what is happening here, its contingency planning
Shall we start the discussion then on peels £800m asking price for DSA?

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Old 25th Sep 2022, 15:13
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Did they not sell Teesside for £40m.
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Old 25th Sep 2022, 15:14
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Originally Posted by dsamole
Shall we start the discussion then on peels £800m asking price for DSA?
Only 20 times more than Teesside - shy bairns get nowt
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Old 25th Sep 2022, 15:19
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A price no-one will be willing to pay, therefor PEEL win, regardless of the consultation outcome, they know what they want to do with the land. ROI is tenfold of the airport income, and the council are not interested in saving it, they'd get a nice new income of rates etc.

Hope they've got a contingency plan in place for the management who have run this airport into the ground over the last few years when they begin to cry.

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Old 25th Sep 2022, 15:56
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Originally Posted by dsamole
Shall we start the discussion then on peels £800m asking price for DSA?

See you tomorrow
Where has £800m come from, we would love to know this?. £250m was the price quoted.....

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Old 25th Sep 2022, 16:01
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Timmy will be redundant.
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Old 25th Sep 2022, 16:09
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Originally Posted by haylo
Where has £800m come from, we would love to know this?. £250m was the price quoted.....

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Quoted by one of the TUI pilots/investor consortium that has placed a bid.
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Old 25th Sep 2022, 16:17
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It's game over. It was never going to be saved.
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Old 25th Sep 2022, 16:29
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Itís a random figure on a social media group with no factual backup .

however I fully expect the figure to be substantial as Peel have planning permission sorted around the edge of the airport, and if the worst happens at some point they will get planning.

whoever buys it has to accept that. The upside is if it fails they also have the development option.

it is one of the issues for uses that require big spaces of open land.

I am sure that all involved know all of this.
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Old 25th Sep 2022, 17:12
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Where is the source for your info?

Originally Posted by dsamole
Shall we start the discussion then on peels £800m asking price for DSA?

See you tomorrow
where is the source for your info. You state a lot of figures etc but with no credible backup? Iíve seen these numbers around social media from folk not even remotely connected or interested in DSA so do we believe everything we see online?
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Old 25th Sep 2022, 17:40
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Originally Posted by davidjpowell
Itís a random figure on a social media group with no factual backup .

however I fully expect the figure to be substantial as Peel have planning permission sorted around the edge of the airport, and if the worst happens at some point they will get planning.

whoever buys it has to accept that. The upside is if it fails they also have the development option.

it is one of the issues for uses that require big spaces of open land.

I am sure that all involved know all of this.
I thought as much..... Thanks.

While ever it's an airport there are safe guarding controls for thr surrounding sites which will restrict what can go in those locations, however of not a safeguarded aerodrome anything could go there.....
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Old 25th Sep 2022, 19:04
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Originally Posted by haylo
I thought as much..... Thanks.

While ever it's an airport there are safe guarding controls for thr surrounding sites which will restrict what can go in those locations, however of not a safeguarded aerodrome anything could go there.....
peel went on a buying spree many years ago and own a good chunk of the land around the airport. They have now got planning consents or at least allocation on most of it.

the issue Iím sure is how a purchaser funds an airport purchase when itís value is far greater in isolation as development land.
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Old 25th Sep 2022, 19:32
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Originally Posted by davidjpowell
peel went on a buying spree many years ago and own a good chunk of the land around the airport. They have now got planning consents or at least allocation on most of it.

the issue Iím sure is how a purchaser funds an airport purchase when itís value is far greater in isolation as development land.
One thing I canít get my head around is whether thereís some kind of land use clause on the estate which stipulates must be used for aviation purposes. If this is not the case then given the amount thatís been spent to connect the land to the M18, why not?

I realise Iím naive to the legalities of such things, and I suspect that if Peel are intending to close it down then theyíd only do so and not sell it on as a going concern if there wasnít anything stopping them from a change use. Anyone on here got any idea?

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Old 25th Sep 2022, 20:23
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One thing I canít get my head around is whether thereís some kind of land use clause on the estate which stipulates must be used for aviation purposes. If this is not the case then given the amount thatís been spent to connect the land to the M18, why not?

I realise Iím naive to the legalities of such things, and I suspect that if Peel are intending to close it down then theyíd only do so and not sell it on as a going concern if there wasnít anything stopping them from a change use. Anyone on here got any idea?
Don't know the answer to that but would Doncaster Council not welcome the opportunity for land that could fulfil future residential /commercial use quotas etc? Just thinking out loud...
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Old 25th Sep 2022, 20:36
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Originally Posted by sunday8pm
Don't know the answer to that but would Doncaster Council not welcome the opportunity for land that could fulfil future residential /commercial use quotas etc? Just thinking out loud...
Is South Yorkshire short of brown field sites?
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Old 25th Sep 2022, 20:43
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Originally Posted by sunday8pm
Don't know the answer to that but would Doncaster Council not welcome the opportunity for land that could fulfil future residential /commercial use quotas etc? Just thinking out loud...
Going by social media, popular opinion seems to suggest that any planning applications should be blocked, but we know there would need to be reasonable grounds to do this and blocking building on the runway would be thrown out at appeal. More £££ to the council in other uses definitely. Just wondered whether there were any other powers available to South Yorks mayor in this situation.
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