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Old 7th Jul 2022, 14:39
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Old 8th Jul 2022, 17:46
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Cancellations

Advice please:
Our flight back from MUC to LHR on the 8th August has been cancelled. Replacement flights all leave too early in the day for us to get to.
We would happily swap to the evening flight coming back from NUE. But it appears to be impossible to do this viai the app and manage booking etc. Have tried calling but they're too busy and not accepting calls.
Any way of doing this without calling?
thank you
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Old 8th Jul 2022, 19:02
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Originally Posted by jdcg View Post
Advice please:
Our flight back from MUC to LHR on the 8th August has been cancelled. Replacement flights all leave too early in the day for us to get to.
We would happily swap to the evening flight coming back from NUE. But it appears to be impossible to do this viai the app and manage booking etc. Have tried calling but they're too busy and not accepting calls.
Any way of doing this without calling?
thank you
Nope. If you want to change the destination/origin you need to call. Flyertalk has advice on what are the ideal times/numbers to get through on.
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Old 9th Jul 2022, 12:47
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Nope. If you want to change the destination/origin you need to call. Flyertalk has advice on what are the ideal times/numbers to get through on.
Thank you. 8am this morning worked out fine 🙂
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Old 10th Jul 2022, 10:00
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BA 115 Cancelled 9th July ?

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Does anyone please know the real reason why yesterday's BA115 - LHR to New York (9 July 2022) - ended up cancelled ?
All we can see this morning is - 'none yesterday - two today'
Asking for a hopping-mad friend who's phone is out of charge.

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Old 10th Jul 2022, 16:49
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Any bets on whether BA's new route to Terceira (no, not Ponta Delgada, that's also a new route) in the Azores will last beyond 1 summer season ?
First flight was today... 75 pax out, 18 back on an A320. Fare are widely available currently of £92 out and £65 back...almost 4 hours on a weekend in peak season.
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Old 10th Jul 2022, 22:06
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 View Post
First flight was today... 75 pax out, 18 back on an A320.
It might be a little premature to attach too much significance to the loads on the first day of a new weekly service, particularly inbound.
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Old 11th Jul 2022, 05:04
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 View Post
Any bets on whether BA's new route to Terceira (no, not Ponta Delgada, that's also a new route) in the Azores will last beyond 1 summer season ?
First flight was today... 75 pax out, 18 back on an A320. Fare are widely available currently of £92 out and £65 back...almost 4 hours on a weekend in peak season.
Based on comments Iíve seen online I suspect BA are getting a nice payment from Azores Government to support these routes.
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Old 13th Jul 2022, 19:28
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Islamabad has been dropped again? After the move to Gatters?
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Old 14th Jul 2022, 07:27
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot View Post
Islamabad has been dropped again? After the move to Gatters?
You sound surprised? ISB was never going to last past when the aircraft was required for something more worthwhile.
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Old 14th Jul 2022, 07:57
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I thought it was something to do with fuel supply issues at ISB?
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Old 14th Jul 2022, 11:06
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That may have been a convenient excuse for the initial temporary suspension, it sounds better than a shortage of cabin crew.

Long term it was never going to last. Painfully low yielding (was moved to Gatwick so it could use the highest density aircraft), not helped by the airspace closure in Russia and Afghanistan meaning it had to take a longer routing into stronger headwinds Westbound. Throw in security issues and high levels of crew sickness associated with it. This was a Covid route, finding use for aircraft whilst other markets remained closed. Now they have a better use for the aircraft, in this case the return of LGW-MCO in the winter, it didnít stand a chance.
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Old 14th Jul 2022, 11:29
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British Airways named worst carrier for cancelled flights (travelmole.com) British Airways was the worst-performer with a 3.5% of cancelling... a BA flight is 12 times more likely to be scrapped than best performing airline Ryanair.

London Stansted Airport cancelled only 0.3% of its scheduled flights, OAG said.
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Old 14th Jul 2022, 12:04
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Originally Posted by SealinkBF View Post
British Airways named worst carrier for cancelled flights (travelmole.com) British Airways was the worst-performer with a 3.5% of cancelling... a BA flight is 12 times more likely to be scrapped than best performing airline Ryanair.

London Stansted Airport cancelled only 0.3% of its scheduled flights, OAG said.
Many factors that make up these numbers and not all of BAís making!
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Old 14th Jul 2022, 16:20
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Originally Posted by stewyb View Post
Many factors that make up these numbers and not all of BAís making!
There's a difference between "making" and "responsibility". Not of my Making sounds like a teenage schoolchild's excuse. Responsibility is what the carrier has to their fare paying passengers. It is their responsibility to schedule what every part of the structure can handle, and manage them, from fuel suppliers, their staffing, handling agents, etc, and also not to schedule up to some unattainable hilt so the forward sales figures look good at the board meeting when they are recognised as impossible to meet.
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Old 14th Jul 2022, 22:39
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Originally Posted by Vokes55 View Post
You sound surprised? ISB was never going to last past when the aircraft was required for something more worthwhile.
I expected it to be dropped AFTER PIA returned, they had a chance to make some money in a high volume market screaming for capacity, not everyone wants one stop.
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Old 15th Jul 2022, 12:51
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I expected it to be dropped AFTER PIA returned, they had a chance to make some money in a high volume market screaming for capacity, not everyone wants one stop.
High volume and profit making are NOT the same thing.
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Old 15th Jul 2022, 12:55
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot View Post
I expected it to be dropped AFTER PIA returned, they had a chance to make some money in a high volume market screaming for capacity, not everyone wants one stop.
Iíd hardly say screaming for capacity. The ME airlines have a lot of volume into Pakistan, across 7-8 different airports and the majority will go for the lowest fare to/from their local airport at both ends. Itís a low yielding route that was only ever going to last until a better use for the aircraft returned.

Just look at the configuration of the PIA 77Ws and youíll learn everything you need to know about Pakistan yields.

In this case there was a better use for the 777 in MCO (or rather, a better use for the LHR-MCO aircraft that pushed the route back to LGW for the winter).
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Old 15th Jul 2022, 14:08
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Originally Posted by Vokes55 View Post
That may have been a convenient excuse for the initial temporary suspension, it sounds better than a shortage of cabin crew.

Long term it was never going to last. Painfully low yielding (was moved to Gatwick so it could use the highest density aircraft), not helped by the airspace closure in Russia and Afghanistan meaning it had to take a longer routing into stronger headwinds Westbound. Throw in security issues and high levels of crew sickness associated with it. This was a Covid route, finding use for aircraft whilst other markets remained closed. Now they have a better use for the aircraft, in this case the return of LGW-MCO in the winter, it didnít stand a chance.
"High levels of crew sickness"?? It was always a popular trip when I was crew at BA.
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Old 15th Jul 2022, 16:05
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Originally Posted by Hartington View Post
High volume and profit making are NOT the same thing.
Ah thanks, didn't know that....I'll write it down (!) #whoknew

OK my point was very badly articulated, my hypothesis was that with PIA's whole operation banned from the UK there would be sufficient traffic to make a single BA non stop rotation worthwhile. Now clearly someone closer to the data saw that hypothesis fail, I explained my point very badly, I apologise. It seems the move to Gatters and it's own feed from MAN didn't work out when balanced against the one stop options in market.
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