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Not sure if anyone can help with this is confusing, I noticed 2 of Tui`s Boeing 767 ( G-OBYG & G-OBYH ) Currently in St Athan OBYG EOL and OBYH freighter
conversion but am i right in thinking all 4 UK based 767`s are supposed to be retired by end of December 2021. I have also heard that 2x Boeing 767`s G`OBYF
& G`OBYK are having cabin refits? if that is the case then am i right in thinking these 2 will stay for another couple of years?
conversion but am i right in thinking all 4 UK based 767`s are supposed to be retired by end of December 2021. I have also heard that 2x Boeing 767`s G`OBYF
& G`OBYK are having cabin refits? if that is the case then am i right in thinking these 2 will stay for another couple of years?
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Are you sure about that?
BHX-Cancun Friday was delayed 24 hours as no aircraft available. I assume the one at Luton and one that has been at Gatwick a while are on maintenance, it seems they have all been busy over the last few days between the UK & Scandinavia bases plus DHL tonight (789 just gone BHX-EMA and another due MAN-EMA).I suppose you could say not busy on pax flights but they do seem to be fairly busy considering the cruise work is nowhere near what it was.
Pete
BHX-Cancun Friday was delayed 24 hours as no aircraft available. I assume the one at Luton and one that has been at Gatwick a while are on maintenance, it seems they have all been busy over the last few days between the UK & Scandinavia bases plus DHL tonight (789 just gone BHX-EMA and another due MAN-EMA).I suppose you could say not busy on pax flights but they do seem to be fairly busy considering the cruise work is nowhere near what it was.
Pete
G-OBYK has departed TPE as TOM988P and seems to have landed in the UAE.
Edit : Routing was TPE-DWC-MAN and is due home tonight.
Edit : Routing was TPE-DWC-MAN and is due home tonight.
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What evidence do you have of "demand falling off a cliff"? Gatwick has just had it's busiest (in terms of flights and departing passenger numbers) Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday since February 2020, despite "current news" and "new restrictions". Even busier than a fairly restriction free October half term. Red list aside, long haul loads have been barely affected by any changes recently.
But how is that specifically relevant to TUI? Aside from Morocco, Goa and a few ski flights, some of which are being re-routed, TUI are operating to more or less everywhere they would be at this time of year.
But how is that specifically relevant to TUI? Aside from Morocco, Goa and a few ski flights, some of which are being re-routed, TUI are operating to more or less everywhere they would be at this time of year.
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The issue is collapse in the last few days and inevitably of new restrictions here and elsewhere. Clearly Christmas travel is strong and largely will have been booked in advance. You then go on to say yourself…mostly a normal schedule apart from the places closed to us, which on Tui’s part is a substantial element of the ski programme and part of the big Spanish market due to the unvaccinated not being able to waltz in anymore.
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Its harder to see with TUI most other Airlines allow you to see the seat plan for flights without booking and you can get a feel for passenger loads. I’m flying out to ACE from MAN in January but I’m not holding my breath, I can see my seat plan for both sectors and it’s not looking good at all, when I got to the date I could book my seats on the Aircraft I counted 107 booked seats on my outbound and 124 on my return but looking over the past week that has dropped to around 50 and 80 respectively.
im not saying this is only a TUI issue as I know people are changing their plans and postponing their holidays until later in the year.
im not saying this is only a TUI issue as I know people are changing their plans and postponing their holidays until later in the year.
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The issue is collapse in the last few days and inevitably of new restrictions here and elsewhere. Clearly Christmas travel is strong and largely will have been booked in advance. You then go on to say yourself…mostly a normal schedule apart from the places closed to us, which on Tui’s part is a substantial element of the ski programme and part of the big Spanish market due to the unvaccinated not being able to waltz in anymore.
Not saying it’s ideal, but not predicting “swathes of cancellations” and particularly not specifically for TUI.
I'm wondering if Crystal Ski, TUI's ski arm, might have significantly reduced loads for passengers flying to French and Andorran ski resorts - will TUI be tempted to consolidate some flights ?
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The fact that the UK doesn't have a red list doesn't stop other countries putting the UK on their red list, and this will discourage people booking holidays which may not happen.
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