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Old 3rd Dec 2023, 06:34
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Future expansions ?

Yes BOH needs to up the game with Pax Facilities and Ground Handling.

I 100% love using BOH (and SOU and EXT too) but at BOH;

The Handling Agents, and Security etc, need to have 100% staff on strength by the next Season;

Our Aegean Airways TUI Holidays Charter flight to RHO in SEPT had just one girl checking in 148 pax...and god she was SLOW.
Tedious queue to the Terminal Entrance doors, totally unnecessary, when other ground agent staff are wandering around doing nothing. and with just the one flight arriving and departing.
This is where the based airlines, TUI (especially) and RYR needs to put pressure on their Contracts to be handled way better.
Ryanair suffered a spate of chaotic (sic) handling problems both in the Terminal and on the Ramp last summer, that made it into the Local rag, the Daily Echo.

The BOH Special Assistance Team though are truly marvellous, and looked after my Sister amazingly when we went to RHO.
Thanks Brian and Loretta, you both are a credit to the Airport.

As for a Business Lounge >?
I cannot really see that being worthy of an Investment when the majority of Pax are mainly flying out on seasonal Leisure, or on Low Cost journeys.
Would the Pax pay for Lounge access?, I dunno,maybe...Would you>?
So sorry, Darlings, but this Question is way above my Pay Grade here LOL, so I will leave that to the Management, but IMHO, not worth it when other stuff at BOH needs sorting.
A Lounge would not necessarily be the Jewel in the Crown, as there are few Business Travellers that use BOH.
Historically BOH is a Leisure Airport (and IMHO will remain so, for the foreseeable) with no such airlines flying any Business Routes.
Any Business routes flown out of BOH in the past 30 years have been a flop.
That's SOU, BRS and EXT's job to look after the Businessman.

As for Travel to the Airport;
Most folk Park their cars, or use a Taxi/ or Drop-Off.
The almost non-existent Public Transport bus links (frankly these are untenable) from the Town, or the Station are useless in their current form.
What to do?
Do they do anything to improve connectivity, or stay with the current status quo?

The other issue for Summer expansion is the Airports' Hours of Operation;
We all know of the (too) many TUI Flight Diversions that have caused misery over the past 2 or 3 summers, to 1000's of their Local and Loyal holidaymakers when they have ended up back in LGW, STN, BRS or BHX even.
The cause is due to TUI's second Rotation of the day running behind schedule, and not making it back home in time before BOH shuts, hence the Pax finding themselves at 4am in the morning somewhere else, but not at BOH.
Some of TUI's handling of these Diversions, of which a number that were known would occur by earlier on in the day were very badly managed.
Some known Diversions seemingly had little forward planning at the Outstations to receive these flights in the middle of the night, and had not pre-arranged onward travel for the Pax back to BOH.
This lack of forward thinking leaves much to be desired in terms of Customer Service and Delivery, when someone in TUI Ops knows full well that by lunchtime that day, the TFS, HER or the RHO flying back to BOH was already running so late that making it home before the airport closure would be an inevitable Divert.
This cannot continue for another summer. You really don't want these stories in the Daily Echo again.
This then begs the Q about BOH going to longer opening hours operationally.

Yes, BOH has a much longer runway, which is always an advantage over SOU, and thus can such as cater for the sellout winter Caribbean Fly/Cruise departures, but P&O and other Cruise Lines cannot increase these as much as they would like to from BOH, due to a shortage of long-haul aircraft in the UK.
The Orlando and New York flights flown from BOH in the past were very successful, but today the $ v the £ Exchange Rate inhibits marketing reasonably priced Package Deals,
plus anyway, there is the issue of no spare long-haul Jets around.
EXT for years, used to have a seasonal series of Charter flights to Canada, often flown by a TriStar, or a DC-8 63 (Worldways, Air Transat, and Odyssey etc) but again this business has gone.


It tells you much about BOH Airport when the first Palmair Charter from Hurn took place in 1958, using a single 36-seat Viking aircraft destined for Palma de Mallorca.
The service was one of the first series of package holiday charter flights from the United Kingdom.
And so 65 years on, BOH today remains a Holiday Airport (and also Cargo as always was).
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Old 3rd Dec 2023, 07:28
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As for a Business Lounge >?
I cannot really see that being worthy of an Investment when the majority of Pax are mainly flying out on seasonal Leisure, or on Low Cost journeys.
Would the Pax pay for Lounge access?, I dunno,maybe...Would you>?
No - but loads do, at airports all over the country. Business/executive Lounge is a bit of a misnomer...
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
No - but loads do, at airports all over the country. Business/executive Lounge is a bit of a misnomer...
LOL
We KNOW loads do....(have a Lounge) but I think you have missed the point here -

Would BOH benefit from one (a Lounge) plus the cost of making one, and would typical BOH flying folk pay a Premium to use it...
As I said in my post - Would you?

The only ones I can think of that would be like a Lounge is the Cruise Ship Pax (5 BGI flights a season at the mo, plus a few Norway Charters)
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Old 3rd Dec 2023, 08:03
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As I said, no I wouldn't pay for lounge access but Im sure that many of the typical BOH flying folk would, as RYR and TUI customers pay to access lounges at many airports.

Airports do it because they make money

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Old 3rd Dec 2023, 08:24
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
As I said, no I wouldn't pay for lounge access but I'm sure that many of the typical BOH flying folk would, as RYR and TUI customers pay to access lounges at many airports.
Airports do it because they make money
As I said, all above our Pay Grade here, but definitely one for BOH to pontificate on.

Knowing the demographic and type of passenger that BOH attracts, frankly IMHO I wonder if a Lounge is down on the shopping list?
Here's the thing --- flying from BOH is that you don't need to turn up and spend hours hanging around, as there is nowt much to see and do.

But your point is taken, that perhaps one day Lounge Access could attract revenue....especially as Rigby co-owned Exeter Airport have a lounge, but that likely was pivotal when as Flybe was the main base customer>?

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Old 3rd Dec 2023, 08:26
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The term 'business' lounge is rather outdated now.

You'd be surprised who flies with 'low cost' airlines now.

Sone people just like to sit away from the noise, congestion etc and relax in a relatively quiet environment and have a few drinks, snacks, read etc.

Because someone is flying 'low cost' it doesn't mean that they may not want that little bit extra before they board. The area is relatively wealthy and l think the lounge would be well used.

But yes, the whole terminal experience needs a complete upgrade, soon.
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Old 3rd Dec 2023, 16:56
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The arrival area is small, and the process slow and manual - where are the automated passport machines?
This is the responsibility of UK Border Force, not the airport.
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Old 4th Dec 2023, 15:03
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Originally Posted by rog747
That's SOU, BRS and EXT's job to look after the Businessman.
I get the other two but EXT really??

Also should it not be Businessperson in this day and age?
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Ryanair have loaded Faro finally into the schedule
Been a heck of a long time coming, obviously some serious negotiations in Portugal but itís 5 services a week which is great news

Looking at the 2 based aircraft it leaves just 3 slots not filled now

Enough room for the Dublin rotation x 2 and 1 rotation to somewhere in Europe , so letís sit it out for the time being
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Originally Posted by MARKEYD
Ryanair have loaded Faro finally into the schedule
Been a heck of a long time coming, obviously some serious negotiations in Portugal but itís 5 services a week which is great news

Looking at the 2 based aircraft it leaves just 3 slots not filled now

Enough room for the Dublin rotation x 2 and 1 rotation to somewhere in Europe , so letís sit it out for the time being
So getting close to at least a 3rd RYR aircraft at BOH?
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Old 7th Dec 2023, 10:13
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Surely thatīs going to need some addition new routes, a big increase in frequencies to existing destinations, or a combination of both. May also depend on the delivery of new aircraft from Boeing which is already causing FR problems, although I did see it reported that Boeing managed to deliver 48 new planes to customers in November..
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Businessperson or just workers, some 'blue collar' workers commute on aircraft...
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Old 10th Dec 2023, 18:20
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Heard the 2 additional RYR aircraft rumour again today from someone who is very close to the action.
However, there doesnít appear to be even a hint anywhere online that this story has legs.

I guess itís just watch this space.
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Old 10th Dec 2023, 18:25
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Originally Posted by annakm
Heard the 2 additional RYR aircraft rumour again today from someone who is very close to the action.
However, there doesnít appear to be even a hint anywhere online that this story has legs.

I guess itís just watch this space.
If there is likely to be an announcement of additional routes &/or increased based aircraft numbers, Iíd expect it to be within the next 10 days.

Iíll certainly be monitoring the Ryanair news announcements like a hawk.
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I believe itís a Christmas list that is un achievable to be honest

There are still 4 large gaps in the 2 based aircraft for S24 so allowing an extra 2 aircraft doesnít make sense
This would mean a huge increase in new destinations to cover this or a huge increase in frequency on existing routes
Given FR reluctance to give even Faro the opportunity to go on sale until this week shows their hesitation

At the moment there is a small increase in frequency to the following destinations which is good

GRO x 1
ACE continues from winter season
MLA x1

However FR are know for surprises and disappointments so letís see


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Ryanair to launch Agadir for summer 24.

Credit as always to SeanM1997 on X
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Whatís happened to DUB?
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It seems that the most recent announcement of a new route for BOH was made as part of a major announcement regarding an expansion of a Ryanair presence in Morocco.

I am still hopeful that there are some more route announcements benefiting BOH in the pipeline, including the continuation of the Dublin service.
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Old 13th Dec 2023, 17:16
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Originally Posted by SKOJB
Whatís happened to DUB?
Its been removed from sale again

Would say that Southampton has secured this route with Aer Lingus

Good news about Agadir coming to BOH , somewhere completely different and no doubt will be a welcome addition to the growing Ryanair network

No idea at the moment the frequency but seems to fit into the gaps with the BOH based aircraft schedule
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Originally Posted by MARKEYD
Its been removed from sale again

Would say that Southampton has secured this route with Aer Lingus

Good news about Agadir coming to BOH , somewhere completely different and no doubt will be a welcome addition to the growing Ryanair network

No idea at the moment the frequency but seems to fit into the gaps with the BOH based aircraft schedule
As mentioned on the BHX thread, be interesting to see what operates these UK-Morocco flights - shouldn't be eligible for an EU registered a/c, unless some accomodation has been reached with both authorities.
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