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Old 13th May 2024, 17:17
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STN slot requests

Originally Posted by pabely
Two IB flights from MAD showing in their booking engine for 1st June so in connection with Champions League final one would assume.
Read somewhere else STN has had x20 slot requests.
Do you know which airlines that have requested these slots?
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Old 13th May 2024, 18:15
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CL final

Not sure yet, there is Two Enter air and a Sunclass the week before fir the Rugby final. I'm sure Airlines for the Champains league will materialise soon.

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Old 13th May 2024, 18:27
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Originally Posted by JW95
Do you know which airlines that have requested these slots?
No and a request does not always = a service. Some hedge their bets and request at multiple airports.
It's a case of wait and see.
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Old 19th May 2024, 20:38
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Champions league final

Flights on 31/5,01/06,02/06

Multiple Iberia/iberia express,Air europa,also Vueling,ITA,Alba star,Air horizontal, + extra FR rotations to both MAD and DTM.

Stansted seems to be getting most of the Real Madrid traffic with Gatwick taking the yellow wall.luton most executive and the teams.Some equipment may park at Southend.
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Old 22nd May 2024, 23:41
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It's nice to see TUI with 2x based 737's both in full TUI livery so far this season. G-TAWG and TAWX are based currently.

It's been quite a few years since we've seen that at STN as Summer 23 had 1x Titan A320 alongside a TUI 737 and Summer 2022 were both 738's but one was G-TUKF almost the whole season which is a horrid basic white livery. Then of course before that was Covid.

Definitely gives the perception at least of a better TUI presence at STN.
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Old 24th May 2024, 14:40
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Lovely sound of the DC3 departing STN today.
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Busy early this morning…to Madrid

I see there have been 18 charter flights to Madrid since early this morning with no doubt many happy Real Madrid supporters returning home!
Airlines used were Iberia, Air Europa, Vueling & interestingly an Ita A320 positioned in from FCO to help too.
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Originally Posted by ChalfontFlyer
I see there have been 18 charter flights to Madrid since early this morning with no doubt many happy Real Madrid supporters returning home!
Airlines used were Iberia, Air Europa, Vueling & interestingly an Ita A320 positioned in from FCO to help too.
Considering that these flights were in the early hours of the day I'm assuming that the aircraft were remotely parked. If so where as I would have thought that the majority of stands were taken up by the regular overnighting aircraft.

Although I'm sure many of the Spanish fans didn't have much time to shop. Just out of interest but are the majority of the food and retail outlets in the departure lounge open 24/7.
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Old 2nd Jun 2024, 12:37
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Originally Posted by Sotonsean
Considering that these flights were in the early hours of the day I'm assuming that the aircraft were remotely parked. If so where as I would have thought that the majority of stands were taken up by the regular overnighting aircraft.

Although I'm sure many of the Spanish fans didn't have much time to shop. Just out of interest but are the majority of the food and retail outlets in the departure lounge open 24/7.
Looking at the airport community app shows the majority were using Sat 1 gates 1-19 with a few using bussed gates 90-93.

Perhaps the based aircraft of Jet2/Tui/Titan/BA Cityflyer etc were remote parked until this morning and towed over to Sat 1 as required?
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Originally Posted by pamann
Looking at the airport community app shows the majority were using Sat 1 gates 1-19 with a few using bussed gates 90-93.

Perhaps the based aircraft of Jet2/Tui/Titan/BA Cityflyer etc were remote parked until this morning and towed over to Sat 1 as required?
Thanks for your response, it's appreciated.

Regarding your last paragraph.

I assumed that might be the case before I made my post. Especially considering the amount of flights involved.

If indeed that was the scenario where did the actual based aircraft park.
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Old 2nd Jun 2024, 15:48
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Based aircraft

Hi all based aircraft mis- placed went to D n E apron towed back after Mad flights departed.

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Originally Posted by Keanaga
Hi all based aircraft mis- placed went to D n E apron towed back after Mad flights departed.

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Thanks for answering my question it's appreciated 👏
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Terminal Extension

An observation with the planned Terminal extension, this was the first impression released publicly:

https://www.stanstedairport.com/abou...l-development/

Here you can see the Skylinks that replace the TTS run along the full length of the rear Terminal extension.

https://www.pascalls.work/stansted

If you look at the video in the Pascall+Watson design however this is not the case, with instead the SAT 3 link direcly linked to the north end of the building and the SAT 2 link instead linking to the bussing terminal.

I believe, looking through the lines, this is so the Skylinks and Bussing Terminal can be more easily put in situ first, allowing the TTS decommissioning before the "three-bay" extension can be added to the rear. That also could be a logical reason for relocating immigration to a lower level, so that can happen before the "three-bay" extension above it. It's worth noting it's actually only a 'two-bay" extension in terms of the roof structure, as one is already existing as the rear canopy above the TTS tracks. But it will deliver a "three-bay" extension in terms of floor space as the interior area will reach all the way to the edge of the structure, similarly to how it does to each of the two sides. They'll need to be some TLC though the existing rear canopy as it's filthy and rusting like you wouldn't believe and something will have to be done with SAT 2 internally to make it fully split level throughout with the new domestic arrivals facility to the north of the main Terminal.

My understanding's also the shoreline check-in may happen earlier rather than later during the phasing. I believe it actually results in a slight reduction of desks, however around 30-40% of current desks in the zoned check-in cannot be used simultaneously due to queueing space. Further efficiencies could also be created by more self-service bag-drop with more common-user desks and pooled resource.

Another area of interest is the space immediately behind security before you wrap round into duty-free. Once the domestic arrivals corridor which runs along-side that is removed, should give more space for post-security re-packing/orientation.

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Old 3rd Jun 2024, 09:17
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Originally Posted by Keanaga

Flights on 31/5,01/06,02/06 Stansted seems to be getting most of the Real Madrid traffic with Gatwick taking the yellow wall.luton most executive and the team.

Some equipment may park at Southend.
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Normally all SEN would have expected in such cases would be a few bizjets plus some for parking. Not this time though - the new management seem to have hit the ground running. On the Saturday and Sunday there were some 20+ passenger flights from/to MAD operated by Air Europa, Iberojet, ITA, Malta Medair, Horizont, Alba Star and TUI Nederland. Equipment was B738 & 738M, A320ceo and neo and B734. which transported some 3,500 pax. On top of this there were at least 20 bizjets parked overnight Saturday, all of which had operated revenue flights into SEN. Very few were accepted for away parking.

SEN was definitely on the map last weekend.
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Originally Posted by Expressflight
Normally all SEN would have expected in such cases would be a few bizjets plus some for parking. Not this time though - the new management seem to have hit the ground running. On the Saturday and Sunday there were some 20+ passenger flights from/to MAD operated by Air Europa, Iberojet, ITA, Malta Medair, Horizont, Alba Star and TUI Nederland. Equipment was B738 & 738M, A320ceo and neo and B734. which transported some 3,500 pax. On top of this there were at least 20 bizjets parked overnight Saturday, all of which had operated revenue flights into SEN. Very few were accepted for away parking.

SEN was definitely on the map last weekend.
More the fact that Luton & Stansted were full rather than SEN being entry/exit point of choice.
In fact an IB was on the list for SEN but at the last minute switched to it's orginal requested airport LTN.
I still doubt, if London gets such an event again, SEN will be the airport of choice.
By that time STN will be alot bigger and Luton more likely to get it's ambitions realised as well.
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Originally Posted by pabely
More the fact that Luton & Stansted were full rather than SEN being entry/exit point of choice.
In fact an IB was on the list for SEN but at the last minute switched to it's orginal requested airport LTN.
I still doubt, if London gets such an event again, SEN will be the airport of choice.
By that time STN will be alot bigger and Luton more likely to get it's ambitions realised as well.
Gosh! Sometimes I think you will not be happy until poor ole SEN is razed to the ground and turned into an industrial estate.

A successful Southend means taking around
2 -3% max of a growing London market so stop fretting.
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I just think he is being realistic.
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Things must be very tight then on slots and parking at STN if SEN had to accept the England football team's B733 very early this morning.
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Ad-hoc night slot ban.
London airspace will be closed to general aviation at night in the summer of 2024, marking a first for the city. Traditionally, London-Stansted (EGSS) has provided limited night-time access for business aviation through a small number of ad-hoc slots. This year, these slots are being withdrawn to accommodate airline traffic that extends into the night. The slot system at Stansted is managed by the airport and voted and approved by the airlines, whose voting power means the business aviation community has little power to stop the airline lobby.
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Originally Posted by pabely
Ad-hoc night slot ban.
London airspace will be closed to general aviation at night in the summer of 2024, marking a first for the city. Traditionally, London-Stansted (EGSS) has provided limited night-time access for business aviation through a small number of ad-hoc slots. This year, these slots are being withdrawn to accommodate airline traffic that extends into the night. The slot system at Stansted is managed by the airport and voted and approved by the airlines, whose voting power means the business aviation community has little power to stop the airline lobby.
Thanks for that.
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