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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 22:15
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There appears to be some issue with flights from STN to Akureyri involving the CAA. Anyone know what the full story is, and why the CAA is unhappy ?
https://www.mbl.is/frettir/innlent/2...ru_flugfelagi/
https://flugblogg.is/2022/06/03/nice...ndons-airport/

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Old 6th Jun 2022, 19:35
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Jet2 2023 Announcement

Jet2 2023 Announcement, information taken from a Jet2 website.

42 sun and city destinations on sale (peak number of flights per week in brackets).
  • Includes BRAND-NEW city break destinations Rome and Athens
  • Antalya (11), Bodrum (4), Dalaman (12), Izmir (2), Tenerife (14), Lanzarote (8), Fuerteventura (5), Gran Canaria (5), Reus (3), Alicante (7), Malaga (6), Girona (2), Palma (Majorca) (18), Ibiza (16), Menorca (8), Faro (Algarve) (11), Madeira (2), Crete (Heraklion) (9), Crete (Chania) (2), Corfu (7), Kefalonia (5), Skiathos (4), Santorini (3), Kos (5), Kalamata (1), Preveza (2), Lesvos (1), Rhodes (7), Halkidiki (2), Zante (5), Larnaca (5), Paphos (6), Rome (4), Naples (2), Sicily (1), Sardinia (1), Verona (1), Dubrovnik (4), Split (3), Malta (2), Jersey (1), Athens (2).
  • Over 200 departing weekly flights during peak periods.
  • A 14th based aircraft coming into operation for Summer 23.
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Old 11th Jun 2022, 15:21
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Rome

Great news RE Jet2, they definitely seem to have been going from strength-to-strength at STN since they opened their base here. Also nice to see FCO being added too which offers a vastly better experience compared to CIA. I'm wondering if the introduction of this route will incentivise FR to shift their STN-Rome flights to FCO, now that they've got some more competition in their home turf? I've noticed they've been shifting quite a few routes over to FCO from CIA, so maybe STN could be one of them?
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Old 23rd Jun 2022, 16:56
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Commit aviation on the Luton thread mentioned that STN's runway is due for resurfacing in early 2023
Does anyone have info on this ?
Is it a "close STN completely for 2 weeks" job, or instead just close from 11 pm to 6 am every day for a month ? Or some other variant ?
In January ? Or March ?
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Old 23rd Jun 2022, 17:29
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You can be assured MAG wont close the airport down !

MAG Group has extensive experience in completely resurfacing runways with limited night closures often running into months with Ash felt temporary ramps poured each morning !
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Old 23rd Jun 2022, 18:59
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Old 23rd Jun 2022, 19:06
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What happens in the event of an FR flight on one of the 5 closed days being due into STN at 2300 but being delayed on its return from (eg) Greece and not expecting to arrive at STN until 0100 ? Does it have to divert to LTN ? Is it unable to position from LTN back to STN until 0615 ?
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Old 23rd Jun 2022, 19:35
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I think ACL times are on and off stand times. There will be taxi time to or from the runway. I would guess from the slide LTNman showed that STN has a 10 min taxi time. So 23:45 departure plus 10 taxi out is 23:55 on the runway and 06:15 arrival would be 06:05 on the runway plus 10 taxi in.
A 6 hour closure seems a pretty short closure so I would think the airport would expect late runners to divert. They can't risk not finishing the works on time either on the night or on the program overall.
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Old 23rd Jun 2022, 19:37
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 View Post
LTNman - many thanks
What happens in the event of an FR flight on one of the 5 closed days being due into STN at 2300 but being delayed on its return from (eg) Greece and not expecting to arrive at STN until 0100 ? Does it have to divert to LTN ? Is it unable to position from LTN back to STN until 0615 ?
It does have to divert and won't be able to reposition until 0600. It can divert to anywhere that Ryanair wants and can accept the flight.
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Old 23rd Jun 2022, 20:06
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https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...nce_Issued.pdf

https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...EGM-May-22.pdf
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Old 23rd Jun 2022, 23:25
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The work footprint with only 4.5 hours per night of effective time will be pretty lengthy indeed. With Saturdays in November (before the ski season starts) being loss-making for most and seeing very little cargo operation, they'd almost be better closing from 0200z Saturday to 0600z Sunday for five or six weeks to let the contractors have a decent crack at it. The process to close and then safety assess to re-open a runway after works is not inconsiderable, and a 4.5 hour nightly closure is incredibly limiting, even before you factor any weather disruption into that programme of works.
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Old 24th Jun 2022, 03:57
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The closures increase to 6 hours per night from 2023.
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Old 24th Jun 2022, 05:01
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The 4.5hr closures in November are only 2 nights a week and are routine runway maintenance, nothing to do with the runway rehabilitation. I'm sure they know by now what they're doing with this.
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Old 24th Jun 2022, 09:18
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Routine maintenance on a runway that is about to be resurfaced.
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Old 24th Jun 2022, 12:37
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The advance scheduling should allow airlines sufficient time to adjust their timetable. Again if you look at prior evidence up north , a small number of flights and delayed flights diverted to Birmingham and Liverpool over period and yes required a repositioning flight after reopening.

Its not rocket science !
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Old 24th Jun 2022, 12:44
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Originally Posted by Flightrider View Post
The work footprint with only 4.5 hours per night of effective time will be pretty lengthy indeed. With Saturdays in November (before the ski season starts) being loss-making for most and seeing very little cargo operation, they'd almost be better closing from 0200z Saturday to 0600z Sunday for five or six weeks to let the contractors have a decent crack at it. The process to close and then safety assess to re-open a runway after works is not inconsiderable, and a 4.5 hour nightly closure is incredibly limiting, even before you factor any weather disruption into that programme of works.
AGAIN MAG as a group has extensive experience with this process , nothing new , indeed at Manchester the runway (then 24/06) was not only resurfaced but also included easing out a hump in the levels to improve radar accuracy!

The timeframe per occupancy is indeed limiting however this is manageable with several contractor teams.

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Old 24th Jun 2022, 14:44
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Routine maintenance on a runway that is about to be resurfaced.


Indeed, but still has to be done. It's a regular programme of essential works thats happens a couple of times a year. You wouldn't seriously expect them to go "ah well sod it this time" we're resurfacing in 2 months anyway.

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Old 24th Jun 2022, 18:03
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It isn't just resurfacing that is carried out each spring and autumn. Work on the runway lights, removing rubber build up and refreshing the paint markings amongst some of the regular jobs which need to be done.
I imagine some preparatory work may also be undertaken ahead of the works starting in the new year.
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Old 25th Jun 2022, 09:45
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What does the Alleviation of Slots at other ACL controlled airports mean for the work in Phase 1 of the Rehabilitation Programme?
Are they able to for example grant LHR some increased night-time slots to cover slots lost at STN? Thinking of DHL here who might be happy at that?
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Old 25th Jun 2022, 13:26
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Originally Posted by pabely View Post
What does the Alleviation of Slots at other ACL controlled airports mean for the work in Phase 1 of the Rehabilitation Programme?
Are they able to for example grant LHR some increased night-time slots to cover slots lost at STN? Thinking of DHL here who might be happy at that?
As someone has already said releasing the schedule for overnight closure this early give the airlines time to plan flights around it.
I would imagine that DHL would fly into EMA and truck the freight down. FedEx possibly similar or even truck it from Paris.
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