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Old 19th Jun 2021, 09:31
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Just seen a job posting for an ‘aviation security agent’ to work for an international airline serving LHR, LTN and STN. Hopefully this means El Al still plan on serving STN.
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With the completion of the slot transfer from EZY for W21/22 Ryanair at Stansted have gained the equivalent of 22 return trips per day.

Bring on the "gamechanger" two of which have now been delivered into DUB.
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Old 22nd Jun 2021, 09:51
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What’s ‘gamechanger’ about the Boeing 737-8200? There’s going to be a lot of sore knees with that config.
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...Best ask MOL & his number crunchers...LOL
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~15% less fuel and 4% more passengers. A pretty compelling package.
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210 firm orders cannot be wrong...
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Have you seen the size of the orderbooks held by Emirates and Etihad pre COVID? Emirates called the A380 wrong in the end and now they're stuck with an albeit great but less than ideal aircraft. CEOs CAN be wrong, Juan Trippe's Pan Am buying so many B747-100s was what killed them off in the end. Now MOL is a smart player, he'll get a very good deal from Boeing but he's really just replacing B737-800s with new B737-8s which hold 9 more seats and have more efficient engines so it's not really a game changer, it's a consolidation. Ryanair is now a mature player, there's not that much more scope for the strong YoY growth of the early B73H days. The only fly in the ointment aside from the inevitable looney green brigade, is that the market to see on the B73Hs that are leaving is now quite weak.
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That’s pretty much what I was thinking. Nothing ‘game changing’ in what it offers the customer, it’s hardly going to shake up what Ryanair offer. Not like they’ll send it across the pond.
The Boeing 737-10 Max would be more of a game changer to the Ryanair fleet.
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SOF...
Rather niggardly as per...

Are you aware perhaps of poetic licence available even to a CEO who is rather capable of grabbing or manipulating a headline in any event.

But is it poetic licence & is but of course a marketing tool?

Or is it a win win tho with BTW 8 extra revenue pax NOT 9 as you state...same crew complement & far better fuel burn over the longer stages for which it was bought.

Use of the EK/A380 comparison is very weak & does not stand scrutiny here.

As to referencing the Juan Trippe/Pan Am/Boeing cosy up in 1966 illustrates futility of argument.

I think all get it Ryanair are a mature brand...several decades now is it not?

The old chestnut of the marketplace for the B738H again...Ever heard of write down?...I`m sure RYR utilize the method.

One unforseen market at the time was feed stock for freighter conversion which is now proceeding apace.

RYR own many of their aeroplanes so could even book a profit on earlier examples leaving the fleet.

Up next the `10...I wonder how MOL will term that one?
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Pamann...

Nothing game changing in what it offers the customer...well better economics could be passed onto the customer in terms of fares.

A jingle now instead of fanfare for on time arrivals & a lot less yellow in the cabin...LOL

Why the mention of sending it across the pond? More than enough work in enabling closer markets surely.
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Why do bother posting if you can't debate? You literally are the most random train-of-thought individual on here, no reply ever presents a counter arguement, or data, or a better analogy. I think many of us get the Pan Am or Emirates analogy, if you've been around long enough you understand the concept of legends as being seen to be beyond the normal rules.
Actually Ryanair is a fraction of the size it once was as it's fleet has been dispersed to other parts of the group, that's a sign of the step change. We don't know yet whether the new Maltese and Polish fleet of Maxes will be entirely branded with their respective AOC's or perhaps more often as simply Ryanair with the relevant registrations, but they've now broken the one size fits all into a group of four different AOCs, something Southwest never needed to do. Am sure they'll do well but let's not over-egg the difference the MAX is going to make.
BTW brave word choice fella, VERY brave word choice in 2021!

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To be sure RYR/MOL throw your analytics...be honest dear chap.

Economics clearly not a forte as example any betterment in the operating numbers IS advantage in a brave new world as never before.

Your analogy again this time clearly does not work as Southwest has a huge market within the mainland US.

No requirement to offer pointless analogies to counter as RYR are very successful outside of all the straightened thinking perhaps.

Look forward to more comment on a `10 order then...more old chestnuts?
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Old 22nd Jun 2021, 19:31
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Southwest has a huge market within the mainland US.
Ryanair's patch is the EU, plus UK, Israel, Norway, and other surrounding countries with liberal air traffic agreements ("open skies"). I suspect that matches the US market. Ryanair can continue to grow by joining the dots, competing with incumbents, and expanding to adjacent countries (probably not including Belarus).
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Right O...being more specific Southwest has a very large contiguous geographic mass...Ryanair`s patch consists of numerous individual countries presenting challenges & of course opportunities.
Southwest v Ryanair`s affairs is not a useful analogy.
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You know that the business model was the same, MOL met Herb Kelleher before he relaunched Ryanair when he became CEO. It's a matter of public record, so, actually that is clearly a valid and accepted analogy, as MOL has admitted. Poland, Malta and Ireland, all three in the EU, which is a single market. The reason the group was split was to divide the pilot group and lower costs which were creeping up. The key difference MOL ignored Kelleher on was getting on good terms with a unionised pilot group. They have publically but politely disagreed on that point, but the rest of the business model was lifted from Southwest.

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Old 22nd Jun 2021, 20:21
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This is jibberish, a word salad amounting to nothing. If you can't post a coherent sentence there's no point in debating.
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Unlike the noises off here the "gamechanger" probably but quietly entering service today.
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Old 23rd Jun 2021, 14:53
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Ryanair start Helsinki daily and Tampere 2x weekly in the autumn. Given the historic monopoly that BA / AY have held between the UK and Finland, and Norwegian's troubles, FR should do ok, subject of course to the C word
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Great additions to the winter network...
First use of the winter slot transfer from EZY perhaps.
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Old 23rd Jun 2021, 20:25
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Great news on Helsinki brilliant addition to the network 👍

on a different note EI-HEN Ryanair’s first Max aircraft is en-route from DUB to STN on what I believe is it’s first revenue flight as FR 272.
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