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I had completely forgotten about Med View Airlines.
Well, that will make Air Peace the seventh Nigerian carrier to have operated from Lagos to London.
With the history of the other six Nigerian carriers that previously operated Lagos to London I wonder where that eventually puts Air Peace. 🤔
Well, that will make Air Peace the seventh Nigerian carrier to have operated from Lagos to London.
With the history of the other six Nigerian carriers that previously operated Lagos to London I wonder where that eventually puts Air Peace. 🤔
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Its been finally announced and Nigerian carrier Air Peace will launch at the beginning of the IATA nothern summer season Lagos to London Gatwick.
Flights begin on the 31 March 2024. Air Peace will operate Lagos to London Gatwick five times weekly with a Boeing 777-200ER.
P47578 LOS 00.10 LGW 06.40 777 x17
P47479 LGW 11.10 LOS 17.40 777 x57
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Air Peace states that it's a credible airline serving the needs of Nigeria. If that is really the case then the Nigerian government should abandon its plans for a new national carrier and put Air Peace in that position instead. If that were the case a name change for the carrier would be more appropriate than the current one.
A name change to the likes of the original Nigerian Airways would make this airline more relevant. But Air Peace seems popular with the Nigerian population and this will be their target audience on Lagos to London Gatwick.
Air Peace will be the sixth Nigerian carrier to have operated a Lagos to London route over the last few decades with the others being,
Air Nigeria
Arik Air
Bellview Air
Nigerian Airways
Virgin Nigeria
Flights begin on the 31 March 2024. Air Peace will operate Lagos to London Gatwick five times weekly with a Boeing 777-200ER.
P47578 LOS 00.10 LGW 06.40 777 x17
P47479 LGW 11.10 LOS 17.40 777 x57
Credit...aeroroutes.com
Air Peace states that it's a credible airline serving the needs of Nigeria. If that is really the case then the Nigerian government should abandon its plans for a new national carrier and put Air Peace in that position instead. If that were the case a name change for the carrier would be more appropriate than the current one.
A name change to the likes of the original Nigerian Airways would make this airline more relevant. But Air Peace seems popular with the Nigerian population and this will be their target audience on Lagos to London Gatwick.
Air Peace will be the sixth Nigerian carrier to have operated a Lagos to London route over the last few decades with the others being,
Air Nigeria
Arik Air
Bellview Air
Nigerian Airways
Virgin Nigeria
Indeed, it is wonderful to see the diversity of carriers that have been confirmed for LGW lately, and if I think back to 2019/early 2020, the airport is actually in a stronger position now than it was then. Yes, sure the airport has lost carriers during that time, such as Virgin Atlantic, who I remain doubtful will ever return to Gatwick, but new ones have come in, including carriers that were once thought of as a dream for Gatwick to be able to attract, such as Singapore Airlines Travel24 - do you know who else is next to likely launch at LGW this year? You mentioned Cathay Pacific previously, do you know anything more of them making an announcement soon?
Is the airport really stronger from having lost a based carrier such as Virgin? Clearly somebody like Singapore brings prestige, but how many pax/flights per week are being added.
I can see chucking an Air Peace B.777 size rock into the pond causing a few operational ripples
I can see chucking an Air Peace B.777 size rock into the pond causing a few operational ripples
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JW95: it’s amazing what position Gatwick is in right now and like you said it’s crazy to think two years ago we would have all these carriers announcing flights. Getting bengalaru from Air India is massive for the airport as it’s more premium travellers.
im stunned myself what’s going on and so excited to see what’s in store in the next few months.
So with potential next airlines Vietnam airlines are in talks with Gatwick and same as Sri Lankan. Azul, air Tanzania I think will be later this year. With European airlines honestly could be anyone at this point.
but there are always surprises and shocks which I love like Air Mauritius last year was a massive shock so let’s see!
Also with your regards to Gatwick losing Virgin. Virgin Atlantic only offered holiday flights that British Airways and TUI do anyway, so yes at the time it was a big miss when they left, international carriers have definitely filled the void.
im stunned myself what’s going on and so excited to see what’s in store in the next few months.
So with potential next airlines Vietnam airlines are in talks with Gatwick and same as Sri Lankan. Azul, air Tanzania I think will be later this year. With European airlines honestly could be anyone at this point.
but there are always surprises and shocks which I love like Air Mauritius last year was a massive shock so let’s see!
Also with your regards to Gatwick losing Virgin. Virgin Atlantic only offered holiday flights that British Airways and TUI do anyway, so yes at the time it was a big miss when they left, international carriers have definitely filled the void.
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JW95: it’s amazing what position Gatwick is in right now and like you said it’s crazy to think two years ago we would have all these carriers announcing flights. Getting bengalaru from Air India is massive for the airport as it’s more premium travellers.
im stunned myself what’s going on and so excited to see what’s in store in the next few months.
So with potential next airlines Vietnam airlines are in talks with Gatwick and same as Sri Lankan. Azul, air Tanzania I think will be later this year. With European airlines honestly could be anyone at this point.
but there are always surprises and shocks which I love like Air Mauritius last year was a massive shock so let’s see!
Also with your regards to Gatwick losing Virgin. Virgin Atlantic only offered holiday flights that British Airways and TUI do anyway, so yes at the time it was a big miss when they left, international carriers have definitely filled the void.
im stunned myself what’s going on and so excited to see what’s in store in the next few months.
So with potential next airlines Vietnam airlines are in talks with Gatwick and same as Sri Lankan. Azul, air Tanzania I think will be later this year. With European airlines honestly could be anyone at this point.
but there are always surprises and shocks which I love like Air Mauritius last year was a massive shock so let’s see!
Also with your regards to Gatwick losing Virgin. Virgin Atlantic only offered holiday flights that British Airways and TUI do anyway, so yes at the time it was a big miss when they left, international carriers have definitely filled the void.
It is a great airport for many of us, and it, and its people deserve the success. Sounds interesting regarding future potential airlines this year- Vietnam Airlines in particular have been really struggling to secure the slots that they need at LHR, so I could see them returning to LGW, either alongside LHR, or more likely consolidating entirely at Gatwick.
I agree RE. VS. At the time (May 2020), I think that we were all in shock when they announced that they'd be closing their long-standing home base at LGW, and of course, this was a huge blow to LGW, despite the leisure base being significantly smaller than their second base at LHR. I think that, in the final few years of VS' time at Gatwick, the signs that they had lost interest and had no real desire or drive to compete against BA, TUI and Norwegian were there: Old, clapped-out 744s and second-hand A332s being based versus the newer A351s and A333s at LHR; routes, like LAS, being moved to LHR; no new routes being launched at LGW for years (with the exception of the planned VS/DL services to JFK and BOS prior Covid). As you say, many other carriers have since resumed or established services to LGW following VS' departure, so their absence is probably not so noticeable anymore, although I am sure LGW would welcome their return, however unlikely.
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Before Covid, I believe, Emirates had planned to go 4 daily and the 4th was on sale but never started, I think due to Covid. I know that they have increased capacity at Lhr, but how likely is it that EK move to 4 daily?
Qatar used to be 3 daily.
And what is Norse doing/planning?
Qatar used to be 3 daily.
And what is Norse doing/planning?
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Before Covid, I believe, Emirates had planned to go 4 daily and the 4th was on sale but never started, I think due to Covid. I know that they have increased capacity at Lhr, but how likely is it that EK move to 4 daily?
Qatar used to be 3 daily.
And what is Norse doing/planning?
Qatar used to be 3 daily.
And what is Norse doing/planning?
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With the start date for the Air Peace service about 6 weeks away, you do wonder how long it is going to take them to get the flights on sale. They have been loaded for a few days now, but no seats available yet. Why does it take so long?
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Air Peace now on sale seems to be 6 weekly.
Some of the flights are shown as operated by B777 and some by B787. So are they using Norse for some of the flights? Could Norse announce Lagos as a route?
Some of the flights are shown as operated by B777 and some by B787. So are they using Norse for some of the flights? Could Norse announce Lagos as a route?
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Norse will operate it 4 times a week for two months at least.
Chief Executive Officer of Air Peace, Dr Allen Onyema, on Sunday, said the choice of Southern Terminal, Gatwick Airport for the airline’s flight operations to London is because the United Kingdom, UK, refused to totally honour its bilateral aviation safety agreement, BASA, with Nigeria.
Speaking on The Morning Show, an Arise TV programme, Onyema said that when Air Peace applied for a terminal at Heathrow, UK’s primary airport, the airline was denied.
He said that although Gatwick was not his preferred choice, it has turned out to be even better than Heathrow due to the numerous options it provides for passengers.
His words: “The BASA we signed with the UK is this: You give me your primary airport, we give you ours. British Airways, Virgin Atlantic, both of them come into my country (Nigeria) using our primary airports – Lagos and Abuja. When we applied, they told us Heathrow was not available to us. They even suggested Stansted or Luton airports, which I found very insulting. They also suggested Gatwick, but I refused because I wanted to go to Heathrow, their primary airport.
“After some time, I saw that they wanted to frustrate us. So, I said let us go anywhere even if they wanted us to go to Scotland. We started to take Gatwick, which was not really our choice. In the long run, we saw some good in it. Most of our people are down the Southeastern part of London. At the same time, when you look at the traffic situation in Heathrow to the centre of London, it is very excruciating, but from Gatwick, they alloted the Southern Terminal to Air Peace. And when you get to the Southern Terminal, you get out of immigration, take your luggage and you get into the Gatwick express train within three minutes, which will take you to Victoria right into central London.
Speaking on The Morning Show, an Arise TV programme, Onyema said that when Air Peace applied for a terminal at Heathrow, UK’s primary airport, the airline was denied.
He said that although Gatwick was not his preferred choice, it has turned out to be even better than Heathrow due to the numerous options it provides for passengers.
His words: “The BASA we signed with the UK is this: You give me your primary airport, we give you ours. British Airways, Virgin Atlantic, both of them come into my country (Nigeria) using our primary airports – Lagos and Abuja. When we applied, they told us Heathrow was not available to us. They even suggested Stansted or Luton airports, which I found very insulting. They also suggested Gatwick, but I refused because I wanted to go to Heathrow, their primary airport.
“After some time, I saw that they wanted to frustrate us. So, I said let us go anywhere even if they wanted us to go to Scotland. We started to take Gatwick, which was not really our choice. In the long run, we saw some good in it. Most of our people are down the Southeastern part of London. At the same time, when you look at the traffic situation in Heathrow to the centre of London, it is very excruciating, but from Gatwick, they alloted the Southern Terminal to Air Peace. And when you get to the Southern Terminal, you get out of immigration, take your luggage and you get into the Gatwick express train within three minutes, which will take you to Victoria right into central London.
Air Peace
Air Peace have since revised their schedule for the airlines proposed route between Lagos and London Gatwick.
The schedule now involves 6 weekly flight's compared to the previously announced 5. Flight's are still intended to start on the 30 March 2024. Air Peace will be using a mix of Boeing 777-200ER and leased Norse Atlantic B789. Air Peace will be using London Gatwick’s South Terminal.
P47578 LOS 00.45 LGW 07.25 B777 7
P47578 LOS 23.59 LGW 06.45 B789 x567
P47578 LOS 23.59 LGW 06.45 B777 5
P47579 LGW 11.10 LOS 17.50 B789 x 567
P47479 LGW 11.10 LOS 17.40 B777 67
Credit to aeroroutes.com
There's a certain individual on Simplistic Flying who's posts are extremely annoying at the best of times. In his regular rants he's recently posted the following.
"I don't want Air Peace flying to the UK with aircraft parts falling on mine and my families home's".
He obviously cares a lot less about his friends home's. He lives in Manchester. How an Air Peace aircraft is going to affect him and his family based in Manchester when the aircraft will be flying upto 200 miles south is beyond me.
But in saying that I've always been rather skeptical about Air Peace and I know others on here share the same opinion.
The schedule now involves 6 weekly flight's compared to the previously announced 5. Flight's are still intended to start on the 30 March 2024. Air Peace will be using a mix of Boeing 777-200ER and leased Norse Atlantic B789. Air Peace will be using London Gatwick’s South Terminal.
P47578 LOS 00.45 LGW 07.25 B777 7
P47578 LOS 23.59 LGW 06.45 B789 x567
P47578 LOS 23.59 LGW 06.45 B777 5
P47579 LGW 11.10 LOS 17.50 B789 x 567
P47479 LGW 11.10 LOS 17.40 B777 67
Credit to aeroroutes.com
There's a certain individual on Simplistic Flying who's posts are extremely annoying at the best of times. In his regular rants he's recently posted the following.
"I don't want Air Peace flying to the UK with aircraft parts falling on mine and my families home's".
He obviously cares a lot less about his friends home's. He lives in Manchester. How an Air Peace aircraft is going to affect him and his family based in Manchester when the aircraft will be flying upto 200 miles south is beyond me.
But in saying that I've always been rather skeptical about Air Peace and I know others on here share the same opinion.
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BRITISH AIRWAYS.
Winter 2024, “October”.
British Airways to launch Gatwick to Bangkok flights.
3 x a week on Mon , Thu and Sat departing at 2100 arriving 1555 the following day.
Return flights Tue, Fri & Sun 2255 landing back into Gatwick 0530.
Winter 2024, “October”.
British Airways to launch Gatwick to Bangkok flights.
3 x a week on Mon , Thu and Sat departing at 2100 arriving 1555 the following day.
Return flights Tue, Fri & Sun 2255 landing back into Gatwick 0530.
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Also flight times are a lot better than those that were at LHR
Congrats LGW!
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BA LGW-BKK now live
LGW-BKK now bookable on BA Shame that they aren't reusing the old BA9/10 flight numbers, which of course have a certain place in history. Really hoping this route will do well and will remain at Gatwick- flight departure and arrival times are decent too IIRC, in the past, LGW has seen a variety of operators to BKK, including:
Scoot (until 2022)
Garuda Indonesia (until 2003)
Phuket Air (until 2004, banned from EU flying in 2005).
Shame that they aren't reusing the old BA9/10 flight numbers, which of course have a certain place in history. Really hoping this route will do well and will remain at Gatwick- flight departure and arrival times are decent too IIRC, in the past, LGW has seen a variety of operators to BKK, including:Scoot (until 2022)
Garuda Indonesia (until 2003)
Phuket Air (until 2004, banned from EU flying in 2005).
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Not sure if this has been noted before but another airline coming to LGW - Uzbekistan Airways
Only once a week and in addition to their LHR shedules.
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/24030...bJTP49Pj9hP7XI
Uzbekistan Airways as of Friday (08MAR24) filed expanded service to London, where the airline schedules Tashkent – London Gatwick service for Northern summer 2024 season. The A320neo will operate this route once a week from 07APR24.
HY203 TAS1055 – 1435LGW 32N 7
HY204 LGW1610 – 0300+1TAS 32N 7
Only once a week and in addition to their LHR shedules.
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/24030...bJTP49Pj9hP7XI
Uzbekistan Airways as of Friday (08MAR24) filed expanded service to London, where the airline schedules Tashkent – London Gatwick service for Northern summer 2024 season. The A320neo will operate this route once a week from 07APR24.
HY203 TAS1055 – 1435LGW 32N 7
HY204 LGW1610 – 0300+1TAS 32N 7
Not sure if this has been noted before but another airline coming to LGW - Uzbekistan Airways
Only once a week and in addition to their LHR shedules.
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/24030...bJTP49Pj9hP7XI
Uzbekistan Airways as of Friday (08MAR24) filed expanded service to London, where the airline schedules Tashkent – London Gatwick service for Northern summer 2024 season. The A320neo will operate this route once a week from 07APR24.
HY203 TAS1055 – 1435LGW 32N 7
HY204 LGW1610 – 0300+1TAS 32N 7
Only once a week and in addition to their LHR shedules.
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/24030...bJTP49Pj9hP7XI
Uzbekistan Airways as of Friday (08MAR24) filed expanded service to London, where the airline schedules Tashkent – London Gatwick service for Northern summer 2024 season. The A320neo will operate this route once a week from 07APR24.
HY203 TAS1055 – 1435LGW 32N 7
HY204 LGW1610 – 0300+1TAS 32N 7