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Old 13th Mar 2023, 19:03
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This week's ATC unavailability are:
15-16 1900-1930, 18 0730-0800, 19 0800-0830
Which EZY flights do these effect?
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Originally Posted by pabely
This week's ATC unavailability are:
15-16 1900-1930, 18 0730-0800, 19 0800-0830
Which EZY flights do these effect?
As youíve asked, the 15th (MAN arrival 1855) and 18th (MAN arrival 0755).

On the face of it the closures shouldnít affect much. But they will. CTOTís are being generated leaving the flights stuck at the departure airport to coincide with re-opening.

Additionally the approach controllers will be off duty until the re-open time meaning the earliest you can probably land is 10-15mins after re-opening.

So effectively the 30 min closure is actually a significantly longer window with no arrivals.

EDIT to add: the comment about easyJet arrivals comes from the ground staff at the isle of man. Looking back at last Saturday and the morning EZY having to enter the holding pattern after departing within itís CTOT, would suggest itís somewhat correct.

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Old 13th Mar 2023, 20:06
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Arrived 17 mins late and did a once round hold, I doubt pax even noticed.
Bigger issues with ILS u/s at the moment and the LGW being sent back to LGW.
Tonight's LGW EZY had a good look around the South of Island before making the approach.
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Old 14th Mar 2023, 20:53
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Bad day for Loganair today.......
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Old 14th Mar 2023, 21:27
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Yes, a very bad day of frustration for IOM passengers amid a meltdown of Loganair's Island based services. ATR 72-600, G-LMTE operating last night's service to London City, diverted to Birmingham, presumably due to a tech issue, and remained there overnight and all of today. The other Island based ATR 72-600, G-LMTD stayed quiet all morning until eventually heading off to Heathrow at 14:05, a mere hour and thirty five minutes late.
In an attempt to recover their scheduled morning services to Liverpool and Manchester, Loganair brought over two of their Embraer 145 jets, G-SAJC from Derry/Londonderry and G-SAJN from Newcastle.
By the time that this pair reached the Island (11:50 and 12:15 respectively), the 07:00 service to Liverpool, which had been delayed in various increments until 12:00, had been cancelled. As this flight is used each weekday for patient transfer to hospitals in the Liverpool area, it's likely that a good number of passengers will have missed their appointments and accordingly, baled out and returned home.
Eventually, the Embraer jets were dispatched to fulfill the Company's morning services to Manchester (09:30 - departed at 13:06) and Birmingham (11:10 - departed 12:44) and upon return to Ronaldsway, both aircraft returned to where they came from.
Later this afternoon/evening, Loganair cancelled flights to Manchester and London City, leaving their Liverpool evening service as the final act of a miserable day for all concerned.
According to FR24, it looks like the sick ATR at Birmingham will be making its way back to the Island later tonight so hopefully not as bad tomorrow.
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Old 15th Mar 2023, 23:07
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https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-...m-doi-control/
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As yesterday was a complete write off, 'bring back Jurby', Loganair charters Titan A320, that's a big uplift from an ATR!
I think EZY upgraded the early Liverpool from 319 to 320 as well.
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Another patch of no instrument landing system, travels be aware. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-...anding-system/
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TFS direct from IOM W23, hopefully not a turboprop as shown in news article
https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-ma...man-confirmed/
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IOM Newspapers report that the TFS flights will be operated by a Smartwings B737-800.
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Lots of seats to fill albeit frequency total low. Lets hope it works out!
Whats the runway like at IOM for a 738 on a 4Hr+ trip?
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe
Lots of seats to fill albeit frequency total low. Lets hope it works out!
Whats the runway like at IOM for a 738 on a 4Hr+ trip?
Might need a Fuel top-up on the way, think previous services have gone via Exeter.
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'Whats the runway like at IOM for a 738 on a 4Hr+ trip?'

Useless - next question.
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FlyDirect are a Jersey based Tour Operator and already serves TFS from JER for some years with Smartwings.
They also offer IOM departures to Majorca and Malaga in the summer using BACF EMB190s.

The IOM - TFS program is very short season -
Flying Direct to Tenerife from the Isle of Man
2023/2024 Programme - On Sale Tuesday 25th April
For our 2023/2024 Tenerife programme we are pleased to welcome you onboard with Smartwings. You will enjoy a comfortable flight and be in Tenerife in around 4.5 hours onboard a Boeing 737-800. The seating configuration for this plane is a 3 x 3 layout.

Smartwings Flight Timetable
Departures will be on Fridays starting on 22nd December 2023 until 26th January 2024 when the final flight will depart the Isle of Man for Tenerife, returning on Friday 2nd February 2024.

Luggage
18 kg of hold luggage and one cabin bag up to 5kg
Please note that the 18 kg limit will be strictly adhered to, in order to ensure that all checked baggage may be carried on the flight.
Any additional items, such as a handbag or laptop bag/briefcase, must be carried within this single item of cabin baggage and the overall weight must not exceed 5 kg in total.
We regret that due to weight restrictions on these flights, additional baggage such as sports equipment and surf boards cannot be carried.

I think this IOM flight operates via JER (Split load)

JER-TFS

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The TFS program is a small tester into the market from the IOM for the winter months , hence only 3 flights
The flights are not linked with Jersey but a stand alone program but with luggage and passenger restrictions

Here in Jersey the flights are capped at 155 passengers and a baggage allowance of 23 kg using Smart wings B73M ( the aircraft copes admirably from the runway !! )

The flights are incredibly popular and sell out very quickly


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TFS - flight times do imply non-stop, going to be impressive departure from IOM unless restricted pax & baggage.
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Looks like yesterday's Malaga passengers are going to get their 7 days holiday for only 5 days and the ones already out there get 9 for the price of 7 as the BA charter never got in, went to LCY so some nights in London?!

Separately, UK DofT talking about auditing IOM, Jersey & Guernsey airports to make sure they are up to standard as per international aviation rules. Is the airport answerable to CAA if failings appear?

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Old 15th May 2023, 08:42
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CAT II coming?

A Manx Radio interview with Chris Thomas MHK, Infrastructure Minister, and thus responsible for Ronaldsway, addresses recent disruption due to weather. He says the ILS on both 08 and 26 have been upgraded, and the plan is to spend a further £2m to achieve CAT II on one runway.

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Anyone know what they are going to do and when?
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Old 15th May 2023, 09:00
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Should be possible on 26, not going to work on 08 with the offset ILS and steeper glide path. JER has CatII on 08
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Thanks for that FlyboyUK. So I guess it's put back the gantry lighting that was deemed unnecessary when the previous management spent megabucks to extend the island then? Presumably the widening of the 26 starter strip allows them to pull the threshold further east (other posters previously suggested another 100m runway length was required for CAT II, but I thought there still needed to be protection in the undershoot?
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