Isle of Man-3

[pabely]

Originally Posted by PAXboy

Ah, thank you. I had thought the first company was later.

https://simpleflying.com/isle-of-man...ived-airlines/

[lfc84]

Somewhat poorly written article. One suggested edit is that Citywing started after Manx2 ceased operations almost immediately following an accident that resulted in deaths. Manx2 also went to Blackpool and Gloucester.

It ignore easyJet who currently operate and have continued to do so for something like 12 years.

A pretty shoddy article actually

[pabely]

As Simple Flying usually are but made be think that the question about old Manx airlines had only be used about recently, it sprang to mind.

[Aero Mad]

The incorrect bits of a Wikipedia page + poorly chosen Cirium data + misread them + typos = Simple Flying article.

[IOMX]

Originally Posted by lfc84

Somewhat poorly written article. One suggested edit is that Citywing started after Manx2 ceased operations almost immediately following an accident that resulted in deaths. Manx2 also went to Blackpool and Gloucester.

It ignore easyJet who currently operate and have continued to do so for something like 12 years.

A pretty shoddy article actually

One could argue that yours is a pretty shoddy response! You say it ignores Easyjet but it also makes no reference to Loganair, Flybe or Aer Arann the article is clearly referring to Isle of Man airlines.

And the article says Manx 2 had services to several UK destinations so I would think that includes Blackpool and Gloucester!

[lfc84]

Originally Posted by IOMX

One could argue that yours is a pretty shoddy response! You say it ignores Easyjet but it also makes no reference to Loganair, Flybe or Aer Arann the article is clearly referring to Isle of Man airlines.

And the article says Manx 2 had services to several UK destinations so I would think that includes Blackpool and Gloucester!

My response was pretty shoddy. But that because I've got better things to do.

But Simply Flying on the other hand....

[Tonyq]

Originally Posted by Aero Mad

The incorrect bits of a Wikipedia page + poorly chosen Cirium data + misread them + typos = Simple Flying article.

I haven't read much on Simple Flying for years, as I genuinely thought it was written by 12 year olds.

[Haven't a clue]

Have to take No2 son to go to look at UK Unis in a couple of weeks time. Need to fly to London. Outbound easyJet to LGW works, civilised (0955) departure, around £60 each for 3. £180 in total. Thought we'd return from LCY which we used a lot pre covid. Er, Loganair want £174. On a Thursday. Each. £521 in total. Guess what I'm not going to do?

IOMX - I don't think this will be continuing post September....sorry!

[IOMX]

Originally Posted by Haven't a clue

Have to take No2 son to go to look at UK Unis in a couple of weeks time. Need to fly to London. Outbound easyJet to LGW works, civilised (0955) departure, around £60 each for 3. £180 in total. Thought we'd return from LCY which we used a lot pre covid. Er, Loganair want £174. On a Thursday. Each. £521 in total. Guess what I'm not going to do?

IOMX - I don't think this will be continuing post September....sorry!

Its great that you are so positive! Actually I could argue differently clearly people are booking it. I booked in advance and paid £74 you can get seats in July for £74. We all now airline algorithms cause the prices to rise as the plane fills up. And if you don't believe me try booking an Easyjet flight from Gatwick on Sunday 24th April and you will pay £259 one way before bags!

[lfc84]

Originally Posted by IOMX

Its great that you are so positive! Actually I could argue differently clearly people are booking it. I booked in advance and paid £74 you can get seats in July for £74. We all now airline algorithms cause the prices to rise as the plane fills up. And if you don't believe me try booking an Easyjet flight from Gatwick on Sunday 24th April and you will pay £259 one way before bags!

If people are booking Loganair to London....great ....

In that case it will continue and its users will be happy
let's see what happens. They said use it or lose it.

The passenger figures will be interesting
Loganair on the 24 April is £144.
Quite a difference

[IOMX]

Yes so Loganair on this occasion are exactly half the price of Easyjet on a like for like basis ( i.e bags included). And for the record I don't doubt that Easyjet will mostly be cheaper offering a random timed service I would expect that. So if its a ticket price you are worried about then that is your option. Some of us prefer to have greater flexibility in the timetable and a proper London airport at least now there is the choice and if you book ahead there is not much difference in price either!

I stand by my point if people remain positive then there are now flight options for getting to/from the island for everyone. If people book them then that's more money on island and that is only a good thing.

[easyflyer83]

Originally Posted by IOMX

Yes so Loganair on this occasion are exactly half the price of Easyjet on a like for like basis ( i.e bags included). And for the record I don't doubt that Easyjet will mostly be cheaper offering a random timed service I would expect that. So if its a ticket price you are worried about then that is your option. Some of us prefer to have greater flexibility in the timetable and a proper London airport at least now there is the choice and if you book ahead there is not much difference in price either!

I stand by my point if people remain positive then there are now flight options for getting to/from the island for everyone. If people book them then that's more money on island and that is only a good thing.

Unfortunately, ‘positivity’ has little bearing on airline economics. EasyJet, Loganair or otherwise.

[Haven't a clue]

Well to close this out booked the three of us on easyJet. Same day, similar timed evening service.

Loganair wanted £174 each. Paid easyJet in total £99; £33 each. Go figure!

Mind you I imagine a large chunk of the Loganair fare was LCY's charges. Just looked back at my 2019 tickets which show airport charges of £71 for a round trip. Of which LCY took the lion's share.

[IOMX]

Originally Posted by Haven't a clue

Well to close this out booked the three of us on easyJet. Same day, similar timed evening service.

Loganair wanted £174 each. Paid easyJet in total £99; £33 each. Go figure!

Mind you I imagine a large chunk of the Loganair fare was LCY's charges. Just looked back at my 2019 tickets which show airport charges of £71 for a round trip. Of which LCY took the lion's share.

Well that’s good that you have got that . The LCY is only once a day from tomorrow but in a few weeks time there will be two a day one morning one early evening. Some people want flexibility and timings others like you focus on price . That’s called choice and it’s a good thing .

[SWBKCB]

Loganair wanted £174 each. Paid easyJet in total £99; £33 each. Go figure!

Am I the only one that doesn't find the Loganair fare unreasonable - other examples from LCY

BA LCY-EDI Thursday 28 April - 17.20 dep £182

BA LCY-GLA Thursday 28 April - 17.00 dep £243

BA LCY-BHD Thursday 28 April - 18.55 dep £217

[jmdavies86]

Originally Posted by Haven't a clue

Loganair wanted £174 each. Paid easyJet in total £99; £33 each. Go figure!

It's worth noting that easyJet operate an A319/20, which means that they have got far more seats available to offer at lower fares, compared to the ATR that Loganair use.

Also, Loganair offer an inclusive hold luggage allowance of between 15-30kg, depending on which fare you go for, and complimentary refreshments - you'd have to pay to check a bag in and also for anything you buy onboard with easyJet.

[businessair75]

Originally Posted by jmdavies86

It's worth noting that easyJet operate an A319/20, which means that they have got far more seats available to offer at lower fares, compared to the ATR that Loganair use.

Also, Loganair offer an inclusive hold luggage allowance of between 15-30kg, depending on which fare you go for, and complimentary refreshments - you'd have to pay to check a bag in and also for anything you buy onboard with easyJet.

For the sake of balance, easyJet offers fares that include all that too, though the fare is of course more expensive than a standard fare. How it stands up price wise against Loganair, I'm not sure.

[tictack67]

Originally Posted by businessair75

For the sake of balance, easyJet offers fares that include all that too, though the fare is of course more expensive than a standard fare. How it stands up price wise against Loganair, I'm not sure.

​​​​​Surely fare on transport at the other end is a factor, from memory LGW express is £40 return per person into London

[lfc84]

Originally Posted by tictack67

​​​​​Surely fare on transport at the other end is a factor, from memory LGW express is £40 return per person into London

Get a Thameslink plus travelcard and it's about £13. Gets you around London and is a walk up fare.

[pabely]

Originally Posted by pabely

Why cannot a 88 seat plane have secure overnight parking for footie fans visiting for a game with IOM FC on Saturday night?

Now IOM FC have been promoted we would expect bigger clubs and more travelling fans so this needs sorting!