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Old 15th Jan 2021, 13:10
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They do continue to receive A350 1000s deliveries and have 787 9s outstanding not to mention narrow body aircraft parked up. They also have 777 8s and 9s on order as well as A321neo and LR.
I do think they'll be fine aircraft wise and I wouldn't be surprised if they may well try and expand their way out of this situation.
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Old 16th Jan 2021, 08:25
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Wizz Air have started recruiting for their new Cardiff base!
https://wizzair.com/en-gb/informatio...ght-attendant/
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 17:56
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Itís reported that Eastern have pulled out of MME after less than a year after all the fan fare and publicity. Loganair are taking over all the routes including LHR.

Would Eastern be a good candidate for CWL ?? After all they do the VLY and soon to be BHD route and will now have spare aircraft that were intended for MME. They also do quite a bit of sport charters through CWL and will have some CWL based crew and also a based J41.

EDI, JER, DUB and possibly CDG may be a good fit for them (all pending on COVID situation). There canít be many regional carriers left for these routes and we know Loganair have no interest in CWL.

I think MME were having a ATR72, J41 and the E70 based there.....

Most probably dreaming as COVID has messed up lots of things in this industry but just curious what Eastern are going to do next with Loganair muscling on their routes from other U.K. airports.
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 18:17
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Eastern are realistically one of the only options left for CWLs domestic routes. Wizz was one of the few, if not the only last option for CWL and they pulled it off, so I really wouldn't be surprised if they do expand at CWL. It will be interesting to see Eastern next move as they are slowly being pushed out at most of the Airports they recently expanded at.
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 18:33
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My thoughts exactly and especially as Loganair have muscles in on most of their routes and said CWL is not part of their long term plan. Eastern have those ATR 72’s plus more on order plus the E70’s which is quite a tidy sized aircraft to operate the likes of EDI, JER, DUB & CDG plus already having a based aircraft and crew here. It could be a good fit for them (pending on fares, publicity, deals and of course COVID). They are also still advertising for CWL based crew too......
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 19:05
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Eastern still have Aberdeen and Newquay on sale from MME. Cardiff no longer listed in the destinations from MME.
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 19:07
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True but BHD, DUB, LHR, JER, ALC all pulled since Loganair muscled in.
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 20:47
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Wouldnít Cardiff-Newcastle be an obvious one for Eastern to go back on, now their TeesSide base seems to have been pulled?
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 20:52
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Perhaps CWL-EDI or CWL-GLA would be a safer bet instead of CWL-NCL ?
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 20:54
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In a real world yes but who knows in this COVID world. As previously mentioned Eastern just seem like a good fit for most of the ex Flybe routes ex CWL especially as they already have the based J41 and serve both VLY & BHD.

It would be great to see them base an ATR or the E70 here especially as no competition but it is all going to be on recovery from this pandemic in the long term and what deal/incentive CWL would offer any airline to pick up these key routes (DUB, EDI, JER, CDG).
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 21:18
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Anyone know how the wizzair loads are looking?
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 22:05
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Its highly likely eastern will soon disappear from scheduled operations due to their lack of focus and direction, with a tiny operation remaining in ABZ and the MME base failing for a few reasons and the strong competition at SOU to which eastern is a weak player due it's own fault of poor reliability, poor customer service (flight/cabin crews not included) and general sloppy operations.
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Old 19th Jan 2021, 07:32
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They've just taken on a few new aircraft so at this point I would think they have no choice to try and find work to utilise them as they are still early on in any lease deal. I cant see them finding enough ad-hoc work to keep them utilised so they may be forced to continue scheduled operations until they can A) pick up enough charter work and B) Bin off some aircraft.
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Old 19th Jan 2021, 07:37
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The EMB-170 was parked up for a couple of years, so won't be costing much - similarly the J.41's and EMB-145's. Are the Atr-72's leased? Wasn't this part of the Bristows deal?
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Old 19th Jan 2021, 07:40
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That was one of the mistakes FlyBe probably made. Have aircraft, must fly them; however if flying them costs more than grounding them then flying them is definitely a bad idea.
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Old 19th Jan 2021, 07:42
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Its difficult to see what else Eastern can do that they haven't already and given up on, which other aircraft have they taken on? I know they finally got a few 41s through the heavy checks after they got left at Cranfield. And the ex Air Moldova 190 is back up for sale without operating once.
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Old 19th Jan 2021, 07:45
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The 41s will eventually run out of parts if the engineers/technicians don't move on before then. 1 of the 145s won't be operated due to the cabin not being to eastern spec. The ATRs are currently leased, Lake had submitted a bit to purchase the aircraft from NAC who declined the offer this was back in 2019.
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Old 19th Jan 2021, 07:46
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Correct, the ATRs and the E170 are leased (NAC and GECAS I believe).

All of the JS41s are owned so seen to be used on a rolling basis and the ER4s are currently for sale. There has been no listings anywhere for the ER3s which are making their way back to the U.K. but they are also owned as well at present.
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Old 19th Jan 2021, 10:09
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This is a CWL discussion, not a T3 forum.

Please use the correct thread.
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Old 22nd Jan 2021, 13:15
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Qatar Airways CWL - DOH service no longer on sale via their website for any future dates. Same applies for BHX.

As speculated. Let's hope it returns for 2022...
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