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Old 12th Feb 2024, 12:58
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Originally Posted by jmdavies86
Not sure this is accurate as they also currently serve AMS, BFS, CDG, EDI, GLA, LIS, LYS & MXP and back in June last year it was announced that they're basing several aircraft and adding 15 new routes (AGP, ALC, AYT, BCN, BER, CFU, DLM, HER, JER, KOS, LCA, NBE, RHO, SSH & TFS) from BHX for Summer 2024, although most of these are being served via their in-house tour operation, easyJet Holidays.
the statement referred to Brussels
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Old 20th Feb 2024, 12:47
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Someone doesn’t know how to operate an airbridge

https://aviationsourcenews.com/incid...ngham-airport/

A very costly repair
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Old 20th Feb 2024, 13:08
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Originally Posted by crewmeal
Someone doesn’t know how to operate an airbridge

https://aviationsourcenews.com/incid...ngham-airport/

A very costly repair
Thats not an airbridge.
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Old 20th Feb 2024, 13:19
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Originally Posted by crewmeal
Someone doesn’t know how to operate an airbridge

https://aviationsourcenews.com/incid...ngham-airport/

A very costly repair
Funny how steps look like a airbridge now days!!
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Old 20th Feb 2024, 14:05
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I stand corrected. 😔
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According to Aeroroutes Vueling have now removed their ORY-BHX from sale.
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Originally Posted by Doors to...
According to Aeroroutes Vueling have now removed their ORY-BHX from sale.
Vueling don’t know if they’re coming or going…
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Old 23rd Feb 2024, 22:25
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe
Vueling don’t know if they’re coming or going…
Haven't had a clue for years. If forward bookings are poor it gets the chop.
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Originally Posted by Doors to...
According to Aeroroutes Vueling have now removed their ORY-BHX from sale.
I thought the route was binned last Autumn. Perhaps my aging brain failed me.
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Yes I thought it had be dropped last Autumn
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Wasn't it chopped sometime in December? Perhaps it was announced as suspended but now officially dropped. Don't think the loads were stellar? Be interesting to see how BVA performs, FR certainly have high hopes given the frequency on sale.
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The AeroRoutes post was a summary of Vueling changes for the Summer

The following is the list of removed routes by Vueling, for Northern summer 2024 season. The schedule comparison is based on 01APR – 21OCT23, 2023 vs 2024, as of 18FEB24.
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Wasn't it chopped sometime in December? Perhaps it was announced as suspended but now officially dropped. Don't think the loads were stellar? Be interesting to see how BVA performs, FR certainly have high hopes given the frequency on sale.
Vueling Orly ended with the summer season 28 October, from memory they never said they were coming back but there again I don't think they ever said they were leaving.I have a feeling it was never in the booking engine for winter 2023/4 so I presume some assumed it was going seasonal but I never got that impression as it never went on sale for summer 2024.

Same story as a lot of flights high season fine 5594 pax 91% August (average 200 pax per flight) but soon descends 2906 pax in September, 145 pax per flight 66%, July 4699 181 per flight 82%, June 4480 172 per fight 78% but April and October 62%.

An A321 was always too big in my opinion but Orly only has the 321 based so little choice.

I doubt it will be missed now easyjet have arrived on CDG and Ryanair Beauvais plus occasional increases from Air France. AF after their bizarre February schedule they seem to be continuing in the same vein with a total mess of an April and May schedule some days 4 per day then two then 3 some Air France then some days 4 HOP. I assume they are still having aircraft or crewing issues.

Swiss - Have added a second Wednesday service making it twice a day Monday Wednesday and Friday for summer. Air Baltic showing up to 3 per week (Wed Fr Sun)

Ryanair - Continue to bemuse. They have added a third Monday Alicante April only (no flights on a Sunday to ALC) which switches to the new Chania in May, they have added a Thursday April Bergamo away based which stops and restarts August from the base, Malta added on a Thursday for April away based. A 6th Krakow has been added on a Thursday based aircraft just waiting to see what route it has displaced.

Friday Madrid from August has been removed - replaced with? The extra Wednesday Verona for April and May added a few weeks back has been removed already

SAS - The 195 still showing in the schedules from 12 April albeit sporadic, 320 just one flight 19 April.The 195 does eventually settle to Monday - Friday and Cityjet Sunday

Turkish - A330 Tuesday morning just a one-off?

Qatar - A359 2nd December F1 related

Brussels Airlines - Still bookable in winter at this time

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Just read an interesting article about the two class 615 seater A380. BHX is the only 380 served EK destination that only sees this version of the 380, the others (MAN, DPS, DUS, BKK, LGW, MRU, TPE) also see three class 380's. Of course, day to day scheduling issues means BHX has of course seen other EK versions of the 380 but interesting that's it's the only city in their network to be planned for solely 2 class 380 services
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So I guess there is no Premium Economy with these aircraft? Unless they’re due for a refurb sometime. Do the evening B777’s have PE?
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Old 1st Mar 2024, 19:54
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Originally Posted by crewmeal
So I guess there is no Premium Economy with these aircraft? Unless they’re due for a refurb sometime. Do the evening B777’s have PE?
just keep the triple 7 B77W at bhx.
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So I guess there is no Premium Economy with these aircraft? Unless they’re due for a refurb sometime. Do the evening B777’s have PE?
Per planespotters.net the 77W's haven't been started yet - showing 2 class (42C/386Y) or 3 class 8F/42C/310Y or 8F/42F/304Y or 8F/42C/306Y or 6F/42F/306Y (what a mess of configs for the 3 class).

EK39 today was a three class 517 seat aircraft- first for a while.

Ryanair Pisa restarted today just weekly but earlier than originally planned. Extra Palma Monday and Toulouse restarts 15 March.

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Originally Posted by OltonPete
Per planespotters.net the 77W's haven't been started yet - showing 2 class (42C/286Y) or 3 class 8F/42C/310Y or 8F/42F/304Y or 8F/42C/306Y or 6F/42F/306Y (what a mess of configs for the 3 class).

EK39 today was a three class 517 seat aircraft- first for a while.

Ryanair Pisa restarted today just weekly but earlier than originally planned. Extra Palma Monday and Toulouse restarts 15 March.

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sorry the 2 class 777 is 42/386
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Old 2nd Mar 2024, 08:55
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Its really curious that BHX doesn't or cannot support a three-class Emirates operation when Glasgow for example can.

Birmingham and the Midlands (including the East Midlands) has and continues to gain major businesses that you might have thought would attract passengers with big corporate travel budgets that would make a first class operation work. Perhaps cramming passengers that connect to the sub continent and further afield into 'cattle class' so they can bulk out connecting flights somehow makes more economic sense?

For sure with the rise of Edinburgh as the economic powerhouse in Scotland Glasgow would have smaller front end market than BHX.
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
Its really curious that BHX doesn't or cannot support a three-class Emirates operation when Glasgow for example can.

Birmingham and the Midlands (including the East Midlands) has and continues to gain major businesses that you might have thought would attract passengers with big corporate travel budgets that would make a first class operation work. Perhaps cramming passengers that connect to the sub continent and further afield into 'cattle class' so they can bulk out connecting flights somehow makes more economic sense?

For sure with the rise of Edinburgh as the economic powerhouse in Scotland Glasgow would have smaller front end market than BHX.
Has always puzzled me too.

There isn’t just first class and cattle class though, you’re ignoring business class - which seems to do perfectly well out of BHX. Major corporates pay for business class - not first class on Emirates, which is frankly opulent and not necessary for business travel.

Confess not clear on who is actually paying for first class - especially out of Glasgow!
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