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Old 2nd Sep 2021, 14:04
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Who is putting up the money for the hotel to be built ? Southend airport (possibly via a loan from a bank) or somebody else ?
How long do the planning rights last while construction is on hold before the rights become void and a new application needs to be submitted ?
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Old 3rd Sep 2021, 11:40
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Southend Airport Co. Ltd is the applicant for this development. They now have 3 years from the date of the appeal decision in which to commence the development (11 August 2024). However, there are a number of conditions which must be satisfied first before construction can commence.
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Old 3rd Sep 2021, 19:04
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If a bloke with a shovel spends a couple of days digging a small trench... does that mean planning permission remains valid forever ? Yes, I'm being a bit facetious, but wondering how much work has to be done by what date, if the people with the money want to wait a bit until pax return in large numbers
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Old 3rd Sep 2021, 19:28
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EZY ill have numbers on what pax and from where the airport can generate. I wouldn't be surprised to see them back on a w pattern basis or EZY Europe but whether it will be enough for the airport may be questionable.
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Old 3rd Sep 2021, 22:58
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Yes. And that does happen.
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Old 3rd Sep 2021, 23:04
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It’ll most likely be a hotel operator who of course would then provide the airport with an income through rent. In the same way an application might be put in by eg Crown Estates for a retail park, with Aldi or whoever coming in with subsequent revisions to take the permission and build it to their spec
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Old 9th Sep 2021, 20:50
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Ryanair Faro Cancelled

Booked to fly to Faro with Ryanair on 2nd October with return on 14th. Both legs cancelled today as I think are all remaining October flights.
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Old 11th Sep 2021, 14:55
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Yes, last Faro now seems to be 25 Sept, Alicante & Malaga continues until 30 Oct.
Last Barcelona 24 Sept so could be dropping to a single based airframe for last month.
I won't say anything about Wizzair as I will get jumped upon.
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Old 11th Sep 2021, 15:09
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Reus may already have been ending in Sep although I could be wrong. Certainly cutbacks arenít unique to SEN or even just to FR. A route I was looking at with Jet2 (amber) has gone and another has at least one flight removed. Itís going to be a tough few weeks particularly with rumours of Oct restrictions. People wonít be keen to risk it.
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Old 11th Sep 2021, 23:01
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Yes, but only if they leave a portakabin up after he is gone.
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Old 15th Sep 2021, 20:58
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Amazon night flights

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/195...nt-place-year/

Our published priorities for 2021 are to establish a constructive community engagement plan, establish a noise forum following best practice guidance from ICANN, adopt the ICAO 9829 balanced approach as the basis for noise planning and build on our noise abatement operational procedures. We are making good progress toward our 2021 priorities.
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However, the airport has confirmed the quieter planes are a ďlong term objectiveĒ and it is on track with its priorities for this year, including establishing a community engagement plan.
So nothing is going to change despite the talking.
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Old 29th Sep 2021, 06:02
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It cannot be said that the airport is not optimistic about the future with their latest purchase, as it won’t be getting much use at the moment.

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/196...ve-efficiency/

The airport has installed two of the high-tech 3D scanners which can process 1,800 bags per hour each.
Come October how many weeks or even months will it take these suitcase scanners to actually receive 1800 items each?

Just wondering whether this was a voluntary purchase or whether they had no choice but to buy them?

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Old 30th Sep 2021, 12:14
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Nothing until Spring next year, clearly....

https://www.marketwatch.com/amp/stor...9-271632986587

"management remain confident in their continuing discussions with airlines ahead of the beginning of the summer schedule for 2022." Whistling in the dark, or genuine possibilities I wonder....?
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Old 30th Sep 2021, 16:20
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No Wizz then. Were they refused access or did they change their mind? I hope they will return in the Spring with a new SEN base. It will be very grim if they don’t.
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Old 30th Sep 2021, 19:09
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I have no idea how many at SEN are on furlough, but Iím guessing thereís quite a few. Today is their last day earning.

Two years ago with the airport on a serious up none of this seemed possible.

Good luck to all involved. And to those with the aviation bug I hope that opportunity knocks again for you in the not too distant future.
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Old 30th Sep 2021, 22:03
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I can’t see Southend opening its terminal next year with all the costs that involves for just 3 Wizz flights a week if they can’t stay open this winter.
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Old 30th Sep 2021, 22:54
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Don’t forget the few Wideroe dashes per week which is still suspended...
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Old 1st Oct 2021, 06:01
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Economies of scale dictate that high passenger volumes means potential profits. Three Wizz flights a week plus two from Widenoe, which can’t be booked, means certain additional loses. SEN needs a based operator as while other airports are picking up SEN is going in the opposite direction.
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Old 1st Oct 2021, 06:21
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I was being a bit tongue in cheek with the Wideroe comment. I guess what we donít know is whether it was Wizz or SEN that pulled the winter flights. It might be the case that SEN was happy to handle them but Wizz cut capacity for the season
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Old 1st Oct 2021, 08:31
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Looking at how Luton is now buzzing again I wouldnít have thought is was a Wizz decision.
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