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Old 24th Jul 2023, 21:15
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
If you are wrong it won't take long before affected passengers 'take to social media'!
Many have, on numerous forums, and the vast majority have been in support of J2’s decision on effectively cancelling all the outbound sectors.
There initially was a lot of concern from flight only pax not wanting to travel but hesitant to cancel as they would lose their money. These worries were addressed when J2 announced the cancellations and they now knew they would receive a full refund.

It’s been clear for some time now that J2.com has become the holiday company’s in-house airline…. just as you previous infer with regards to TUI.
J2 Holidays effectively dictates where “their” airline goes and who gets first dibs on the available seats. That becomes very clear if you try to book a flight only seat on the early flight on a route that operates twice daily !

Yes, of course there will be some that are miffed that their “flight only” has been cancelled when the events in Rhodes perhaps don’t directly personally affect them. But I’m certain they are few and they can easily rebook with another carrier in the safe knowledge that their refund will be processed in due course.

I’m sure that J2’s reasoning in its decision to cancel so many flights and holidays will be proved to be very astute in the long run.
They’ve rarely been proved wrong.


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Old 25th Jul 2023, 08:58
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“…quick get those 2* Bulgaria packages filled asap”
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Old 25th Jul 2023, 09:10
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount
“…quick get those 2* Bulgaria packages filled asap”
That'll be an eye opener after looking forward to 4* Rhodes.
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Old 31st Jul 2023, 13:15
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I notice the A330's have been mixed up a bit. The World2Fly one is now operating some PMI/TFS flights, so not doing it's usual FAO/DLM, which has now been covered by the AirTanker pairing over the last week or so. Was this a planned amendment for the school holidays? As I am sure the World2Fly one has much more capacity does it not?
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Old 31st Jul 2023, 13:32
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Originally Posted by samj
I notice the A330's have been mixed up a bit. The World2Fly one is now operating some PMI/TFS flights, so not doing itsusual FAO/DLM, which has now been covered by the AirTanker pairing over the last week or so. Was this a planned amendment for the school holidays? As I am sure the World2Fly one has much more capacity does it not?
The A333 has 61 more seats
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Old 31st Jul 2023, 14:13
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Given there are an extra 61 seats - I am guessing this was planned by Jet2 to coincide with the school holidays?
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Old 31st Jul 2023, 15:14
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What’s the seating capacity for A321 v A321NEO ?
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Old 31st Jul 2023, 15:20
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Originally Posted by simoncorbett
what’s the seating capacity for a321 v a321neo ?
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ceo - 220 neo - 232
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Old 9th Aug 2023, 07:41
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‘W’

Just wondering how prevalent whiskey patterns are with Jet2.

I’ve noticed this summer that the Wednesday Ibiza flight from Newcastle is actually a whiskey Leeds operation. I didn’t think Jet2 did these? Does it happen anywhere else with Jet2? In such a case, do the crew do a 4 sector shift?

Whats interesting is, Jet2 usually have a spare in Newcastle on a Tue/Wed so not sure why a ‘w’ would be needed.

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Old 9th Aug 2023, 11:41
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I Believe the "spare aircraft" on Tue/Wed may be to do with maintenance.
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Old 9th Aug 2023, 11:50
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Originally Posted by P330
Just wondering how prevalent whiskey patterns are with Jet2.

I’ve noticed this summer that the Wednesday Ibiza flight from Newcastle is actually a whiskey Leeds operation. I didn’t think Jet2 did these? Does it happen anywhere else with Jet2? In such a case, do the crew do a 4 sector shift?

Whats interesting is, Jet2 usually have a spare in Newcastle on a Tue/Wed so not sure why a ‘w’ would be needed.
They aren’t too common as a rule but there are a few going around at the moment such as this, usually U.K.-PMI-LBA/MAN, but obviously it incurs costs to get the crew back to their respective base.

“spare” frame doesn’t always mean spare - there are maintenance slots built in to the schedule, both to cover routine maintenance and maintain flexibility/cover AOG.
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Old 9th Aug 2023, 14:56
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Thanks - particularly with respect to the ‘spare’.

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Old 10th Aug 2023, 15:35
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Flying to Tenerife tomorrow from Manchester at 15:50. Received an email a few months ago stating the flight would be operated by Air Tanker. I have just noticed on FR24 that the equipment for this flight tomorrow (11/08) is 333, so is it the World2Fly aircraft?
Not had an emailing ref this change but certainly not complaining!
I assume it's decked out with Jet2 interior and cabin crew? Are the flight deck crew working for World2Fly or another company?
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Old 10th Aug 2023, 16:21
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It will be world2fly if 330-300, CSWFP is the registration.

They have swapped flying lines with AirTanker at the moment.

Flight Crew will be world2fly, Cabin Crew from Jet2 and it does not have Jet2 interior. Dated but comfortable chunky blue leather seats.
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Old 10th Aug 2023, 17:33
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Originally Posted by ImagineIf
It will be world2fly if 330-300, CSWFP is the registration.

They have swapped flying lines with AirTanker at the moment.

Flight Crew will be world2fly, Cabin Crew from Jet2 and it does not have Jet2 interior. Dated but comfortable chunky blue leather seats.
Thanks a lot for the info
Looking forward to it!
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Old 11th Aug 2023, 13:59
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Originally Posted by ImagineIf
It will be world2fly if 330-300, CSWFP is the registration.

They have swapped flying lines with AirTanker at the moment.

Flight Crew will be world2fly, Cabin Crew from Jet2 and it does not have Jet2 interior. Dated but comfortable chunky blue leather seats.
Howcome they have swapped? Was this planned? With CS-WFP being Y388 v the Y327 for the x2 Air Tanker it must have had a large impact on daily operation - with not enough seats on some of the Airtanker, and then 61 spare the world2fly?!
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Old 12th Aug 2023, 09:20
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Suppose a bit of a swap on routes doing better than others.

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Old 16th Aug 2023, 14:33
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Originally Posted by samj
Howcome they have swapped? Was this planned? With CS-WFP being Y388 v the Y327 for the x2 Air Tanker it must have had a large impact on daily operation - with not enough seats on some of the Airtanker, and then 61 spare the world2fly?!
The swap will have been planned in advance, a case of identifying where those extra seats on WFP can be allocated in the summer peak. It is only on certain dates it has happened too, WFP is still seeing FAO/DLM on some days. What is more, all of the A330's are serving destinations that Jet2 are also operating their own metal too. So there are multiple options to fix any over spill of passengers following a capacity change.
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Old 17th Aug 2023, 16:37
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NCL-TFS

So, another nerdy operational question.

A few weeks ago, we pretty much established that NCL’s aircraft allocation isn’t random with new build 737s the priority.

Now here is another question. Within a peak base of 9 aircraft; ‘BD’ is off to Tenerife today for the 10th successive day. Between the 20th July and the 8th August, if flew there 12 out of 19 times.

When there is a random chance of 1 in 9 afternoon destinations, most usually the lengthier sectors, why one aircraft on one route? Pretty much all are new build so in theory the same, all are back home by 2-3 am the next morning so one night’s arrival shouldn’t determine the next day’s plan.

The stats seem to suggest this isn’t random but I can’t think of a rational explanation?
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Old 17th Aug 2023, 16:49
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B757 G-LSAK appears to be operating ex STN since the 14th. Was this planned? I thought the B757 fleet was based out of MAN only?
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