Teesside-2

[P330]

Great figures!

Can I just check a figure; your opening line says pax of 20,880 and your last line says expect June to be over 20k for the first time since... Is the May number wrong?

Thanks for sharing.

[SWBKCB]

I was thinking the same about the 20k.

I wonder how those RYR figures compare with the rest of their network?

[highwideandugly]

338 departing passengers per day.
Up from 231 in April..

[GrahamK]

With the Dutch Govt putting a flight cap on AMS, how worried are we that the KLM AMS-MME flight may not survive? (Other smaller routes such as HUY,INV, SOU may also be worried).

[SKOJB]

Originally Posted by GrahamK

With the Dutch Govt putting a flight cap on AMS, how worried are we that the KLM AMS-MME flight may not survive? (Other smaller routes such as HUY,INV, SOU may also be worried).

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SOU airport is doing fine thanks very much!

[tigertanaka]

Originally Posted by P330

Great figures!

Can I just check a figure; your opening line says pax of 20,880 and your last line says expect June to be over 20k for the first time since... Is the May number wrong?

Thanks for sharing.

Originally Posted by SWBKCB

I was thinking the same about the 20k.

I wonder how those RYR figures compare with the rest of their network?

My mistake, it was 17,459 (now corrected).

[SWBKCB]

Originally Posted by SWBKCB

I wonder how those RYR figures compare with the rest of their network?

Europe's biggest budget airline was likely to end this month with just over 15 million passengers, up from 14.24 million in April, which compared to just 1.04 million in April 2021, O'Leary told Reuters. He expected the load factor to edge up to 92% in May from 91% in April.

Reuters - Ryanair sees over 15 million passengers in May, summer bookings strong

[P330]

So, whilst out loads are good, you always worry with Ryanair whether they are good enough and certainly they’re below those averages quoted in the article.

Would love to see a couple of Canary Islans routes added.

[SWBKCB]

Originally Posted by P330

So, whilst our loads are good, you always worry with Ryanair whether they are good enough and certainly they’re below those averages quoted in the article.

Alicante 153 = 81%, Faro 130 = 69% and Palma 113 = 60%

[AirLCY]

Originally Posted by SWBKCB

Alicante 153 = 81%, Faro 130 = 69% and Palma 113 = 60%

in Ryanair terms, none of those are good, so hopefully they pick up for July onwards

[P330]

Originally Posted by AirLCY

in Ryanair terms, none of those are good, so hopefully they pick up for July onwards

And that’s my worry. To be fair though, they must have a target load factor by a certain date and we don’t know what that is. Let’s just hope they keep improving (and quickly).

[N707ZS]

How do the Ryanair loads compare to the neighbouring airport.

[highwideandugly]

Not just Ryanair to worry about.Considering the amount of flights KLM operate through the airport , it’s seems disproportionate, the amount of cancellations?
This weekend for instance there are no flights at all! I know it’s not technically the fault of Teesside..but the end result is the same?

Loganair with only two flights a week to Dublin and the Belfast loads not brilliant could also be interesting this winter?

Plenty of other airfield business though to keep it going!!

[highwideandugly]

How do the Ryanair loads compare to the neighbouring airport... you ask…


Anecdotal..but a friend went to Riga last week and returned 3 or maybe 4 days later..he counted on board ,en route..completely full outbound, 15 spare seats on return!

Of course no idea of fares or yield..and it was only one return trip 🤔

[toon22]

Not neighbouring airports but Aberdeen and Newquay to Faro and Alicante are direct comparisons, each with twice weekly services.

[Cautious Optimist]

This is why forums such as this are dangerous, the averages on our Ryanair routes are higher than quoted above. If you're going off a rolling average, they're only marginally higher, but higher nonetheless. But week-by-week, they are significantly higher. Either way, ALC, CFU, FAO and PMI are all doing well enough.

[mmeman]

Ryanair load factors (all based on FR24 flight info) - I think they are Alicante 85%, Faro 77%, Palma 69% - still under the average according the article. TUI is around 95% including the first flight back which will only have 7 day holiday people on. Jersey I reckon is averaging 68 assuming first flight from Jersey is the positioning flight - is there 68 seats on the ATR?

On my reckoning, for Ryanair flights from Newcastle where only Ryanair are operating - Riga 103 per flight 55%, Gdansk - 130 per flight 69%, Zadar - 100 per flight 53%, Chania 162 per flight 86%, Bergamo 105 per flight 56%, Krakow -134 per flight 71%, Wroclaw 118 per flight 62% (Newcastle seem to lump all pax figures under scheduled so you cant really work anything out with destinations with multiple operators)

Expect KLM numbers to decrease - all flights £396 single until 8th August - same pricing strategy for NCL (£370), HUY (£367), LBA (cheapest at £282 per flight) trying to reduce passenger numbers but still make some money? (MME the most expensive)

[toon22]

That’s precisely why I made no other comment. Other factors influencing route possibility: yield – which none of us know. Sector length: Aberdeen is over an hour per sector longer than Newquay with Teesside in the middle. Its contribution (profit) per block hour that really counts.

[LGS6753]

Of course, airport figures are passengers flown. An unknown is how many booked but were no-shows. It's difficult and not cost-effective to get refunds, apparently.

[AirportPlanner1]

Originally Posted by LGS6753

Of course, airport figures are passengers flown. An unknown is how many booked but were no-shows. It's difficult and not cost-effective to get refunds, apparently.

To a great extent this isn’t relevant as virtually every route will have this, so the nos /% flown is still about as good a proxy measure for success as you’ll get.