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Old 23rd Nov 2023, 19:54
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I would hazard a guess that it's the weaker performing routes that have been pulled. If they were making good money they'd have found a way.
In all probability the FAO-MME wasn’t a goldmine, but nor was it a poor performer. Probably just a bog standard route that is disposable as it’s a non-base destination next door to two bases. Like I say, what is the strategic significance of Teesside to the Ryanair network?

This assumes it has been dropped, but patterns would dictate that this is the case, they’ve done it countless times this way before.
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Old 23rd Nov 2023, 20:12
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Not doubting any of the reasons, just saying that it *shouldn't* be the case
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Old 24th Nov 2023, 07:19
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Originally Posted by pug
In all probability the FAO-MME wasn’t a goldmine, but nor was it a poor performer. Probably just a bog standard route that is disposable as it’s a non-base destination next door to two bases. Like I say, what is the strategic significance of Teesside to the Ryanair network?

This assumes it has been dropped, but patterns would dictate that this is the case, they’ve done it countless times this way before.
The same applies to CWL-FAO and EXT-FAO, neither of which have been put on sale. Last winter CWL-FAO operated but was dropped this winter. There's one strange lone flight on March 26th that's been on sale for some time.
Summer load factors were between 88% up to 97%, so bums were on seats but will likely be a casualty of the fees dispute.
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Old 28th Nov 2023, 13:35
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Harold77 you seem to have your finger on the pulse! Any news on Faro yet for next year..or any additions in the pipeline as promised?
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Old 28th Nov 2023, 14:02
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Harold77 you seem to have your finger on the pulse! Any news on Faro yet for next year..or any additions in the pipeline as promised?
it’s all gone very quiet.
anything new for 2024 if it’s going to happen will be on sale before Christmas
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Old 28th Nov 2023, 15:04
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If it helps with the answer, Faro is still on the drop down menu - there is just nothing for sale. I also believe the airport are hoping that it is just a timing issue.

As for new routes…..all quiet.

As things stand, and hopefully this changes, 2024 will be down on this year based on what is available to buy today.

(Note consumer demand is slowing as is evidenced by Jet2’s narrative about forward bookings in their results release….so likely a difficult period coming up for airlines and their fare paying passengers).
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Old 28th Nov 2023, 16:38
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Unless operational through Edinburgh!

Interesting times for all marginal..and non marginal airports.
Off topic..but connected..friend of mines mortgage just nicely jumped £425 per month..he was planning a holiday..not now!

Wonder if this is repeated x a couple of million people how it will affect travel?
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Old 29th Nov 2023, 00:34
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
Harold77 you seem to have your finger on the pulse! Any news on Faro yet for next year..or any additions in the pipeline as promised?
On some aviation news sites saying Ryanair pulling some based aircraft out of Portugal due to airport operators hiking up fees n taxes. Same in Germany pulling aircraft out of Germany. Ryanair are also short on new aircraft deliveries which are running massively behind schedule, so in turn is having scheduling effects on expansion plans across the company, since they won't know what they have to play with. But if they are set to pull aircraft out of Germany & Portugal it could be a case of where these aircraft will be dispersed to and what options these aircraft will open up. So could it be that possibility of loosing large amount of traffic with various operators that airport owners/ authorities in both countries see a bit of a climb down and see aircraft remain there and not be pulled thus scheduling can be returned. So just a case of watch this space as things can change rapidly in the aviation industry.

Last year Teesside Financial Accounts were published on Companies House on 14th December.

Next TVCA Cabinet meeting is 15th December. So would expect some snippets of info on airport in the Mayors Update.
First Quarter budget report Investment Plan Projects from September meeting show airport financial year budget 2022-23 £15.3m, 2023-24 £17.6m then zero budgeted in years following. These figures are revised up and down each quarter, so don't read too much into these figures. But may be case of when more funding pots open up for certain investment projects, then we could see funding budgeted if more projects get put forward in the future.
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Old 29th Nov 2023, 06:19
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On some aviation news sites saying Ryanair pulling some based aircraft out of Portugal due to airport operators hiking up fees n taxes. Same in Germany pulling aircraft out of Germany. Ryanair are also short on new aircraft deliveries which are running massively behind schedule, so in turn is having scheduling effects on expansion plans across the company, since they won't know what they have to play with. But if they are set to pull aircraft out of Germany & Portugal it could be a case of where these aircraft will be dispersed to and what options these aircraft will open up. So could it be that possibility of loosing large amount of traffic with various operators that airport owners/ authorities in both countries see a bit of a climb down and see aircraft remain there and not be pulled thus scheduling can be returned. So just a case of watch this space as things can change rapidly in the aviation industry.
But most other RYR routes from FAO are now on sale. If RYR are culling routes due to late deliveries, it'll be the weaker one's - which will be getting weaker as customers book alternatives.
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Old 29th Nov 2023, 06:35
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The airport seems to be concentration on the new hangars with rumours that Willis might take them.
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Old 29th Nov 2023, 08:41
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Passengers have voted Teesside International Airport as the Best UK Airport for Leisure Travel at the country’s biggest travel awards. The airport picked up the gong at the British Travel Awards – the largest survey of consumer opinion on everything to do with leisure travel. The awards cover the whole holiday sector, with travel companies, cruise lines, travel agents, hotel brands, airlines and airports all in the running.
​​​​​​​The majority of the flights for next year’s summer season are now on sale, with Ryanair offering services to Faro in Portugal, Majorca and Corfu alongside a three-times weekly year-round Alicante service
My bold - interesting?

https://www.teessideinternational.co...travel-awards/
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Old 29th Nov 2023, 09:59
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Looks like something the mayors office has churned out to the public. There has been some hard work by Friends of Teesside airport to get people to vote.
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Old 29th Nov 2023, 10:18
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
I've heard that we should keep an eye on the Ryanair website for updates on when Faro will be released, so I think there is an expectation that it will come on sale at some point. The fact it is still on the drop down menu suggests that is the case too.

However, I do think the chances of new routes coming on line for next year are ebbing away now.
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Old 29th Nov 2023, 13:09
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Southend is in the drop down and that base closed years ago
Cardiff to Belfast is in the drop down and that finished in the summer

Regarding Faro as previously discussed many UK airports still not featured for summer

ABZ
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Old 29th Nov 2023, 15:41
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The airport seems to be concentration on the new hangars with rumours that Willis might take them.
They are still awaiting a decision on Darlington Borough Council planning website pages
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Old 29th Nov 2023, 20:09
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“They are still awaiting a decision on Darlington Borough Council planning website”

The Mayor made a big announcement stating that Planing Approval had been granted and we were getting 5 new hangar's and 250 new jobs. Sadly that wasn’t quite true as the scheme received only outline approval subject to numerous stringent conditions to be fulfilled by September but no further submissions were made. The Mayor stopped mentioning the Village shortly after his announcement and ignores all questions about it so I think most worked out quite soon that the project was dead, if it was ever alive.
Stockton Council are “minded to approve” the two hangers beside the station although the Mayor has again reported that approval has been granted. It’s pretty obvious who the tenants will be if they are built.
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Old 29th Nov 2023, 21:07
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Originally Posted by Grumpy1
“They are still awaiting a decision on Darlington Borough Council planning website”

The Mayor made a big announcement stating that Planing Approval had been granted and we were getting 5 new hangar's and 250 new jobs. Sadly that wasn’t quite true as the scheme received only outline approval subject to numerous stringent conditions to be fulfilled by September but no further submissions were made. The Mayor stopped mentioning the Village shortly after his announcement and ignores all questions about it so I think most worked out quite soon that the project was dead, if it was ever alive.
Stockton Council are “minded to approve” the two hangers beside the station although the Mayor has again reported that approval has been granted. It’s pretty obvious who the tenants will be if they are built.
the 2 hangar are north of the runway so the decision lies with Darlington Borough Council
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Old 30th Nov 2023, 07:10
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I have just spotted another whopper,
TUI has also expanded its offering from Teesside this year, with twice-weekly flights to Majorca and it will also introduce flights to Dalaman, Turkey in 2024.
Its not an expansion just a change of route from Antalya.
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Old 30th Nov 2023, 07:46
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A few whoppers abound..thanks to the vibrant world of Facebook!

However..passengers, freight and general airfield activity has increased year on year thanks to the massive investment..no denying that.

Question is..when that funding/investment slows or drys up ..what happens then?
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Old 30th Nov 2023, 08:40
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Looks like the head fell of the brush this morning with a 2 hour departure delay on the KLM. Snow was minimal.
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