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Old 31st Jul 2023, 23:18
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe
odd that TUI NCL-Cancun 788 did a fuel stop in GLA ?
stop press:
Unfortunately, due to weather conditions at Newcastle Airport affecting the performance of the aircraft, the flight was forced to make a stop at Glasgow in order to pick additional fuel for the onward journey.
Not sure what "weather" conditions we had that would affect this
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Old 1st Aug 2023, 08:44
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A combination of a short, wet runway, slack winds, low air pressure and a heavy aircraft. It hasn't been explained properly but basically it can take off, just not with enough fuel to get all the way to Cancun. Glasgow may have had higher air pressure, a more favourable headwind and the runway is longer. This happens regularly at Newcastle. It can even happen on Cyprus or Canary Island flights from Newcastle. Nobody is making stuff up here.
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Old 1st Aug 2023, 08:44
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Wet runway/low pressure/not enough headwind component all balanced against passenger load/fuel required for the flight(usually overall headwind component going westbound)
It's a HUGE balancing act and the decision to go somewhere else for more fuel has to be taken early.

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Ha, we crossed!
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Old 1st Aug 2023, 08:53
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Originally Posted by The Flying Stool
A combination of a short, wet runway, slack winds, low air pressure and a heavy aircraft. It hasn't been explained properly but basically it can take off, just not with enough fuel to get all the way to Cancun. Glasgow may have had higher air pressure, a more favourable headwind and the runway is longer. This happens regularly at Newcastle. It can even happen on Cyprus or Canary Island flights from Newcastle. Nobody is making stuff up here.
Yes, it's not unusual to see flights to the far Med or the Canaries go off 07 when weather conditions allow, when the rest of the traffic pattern is 25. 07 has fewer obstacles so allowing departures at higher weights.
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Old 1st Aug 2023, 09:26
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Ryanair’s route to Shannon seems to be a bit of a slow starter

23% load factor; 44 pax for May!
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Old 2nd Aug 2023, 07:33
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Not sure why they changed Cork for Shannon......Cork always seemed to have reasonable loads.

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Old 2nd Aug 2023, 08:33
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Originally Posted by Jamesair1
Not sure why they changed CORK for SHANNON,,,,CORK always seemed to have reasonable loads.
your posts are incredibly annoying to read. Why are some words in CAPITAL letters? Shannon & Cork is so much easier to read than all caps
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Just force of habit....no wish to cause nervous breakdowns...I have mended my ways.
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Old 2nd Aug 2023, 16:44
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Originally Posted by LW940
Ryanair’s route to Shannon seems to be a bit of a slow starter

23% load factor; 44 pax for May!
A youtuber showing an empty cabin. Another for the bin I suspect. 189 seats on that is ridiculous.
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Old 2nd Aug 2023, 18:22
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount
A youtuber showing an empty cabin. Another for the bin I suspect. 189 seats on that is ridiculous.
Have to agree, why they canned Cork , which was doing a lot better, and replaced it with an airport in the middle of nowhere. Was never going to be a popular choice, even with Ryanairs low fares
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Originally Posted by GrahamK
Have to agree, why they canned Cork , which was doing a lot better, and replaced it with an airport in the middle of nowhere. Was never going to be a popular choice, even with Ryanairs low fares
Airport in the middle of no where? I think not. Its near Limerick and Galway. Very popular cities. Also near loads of tourist attractions in Clare. It has a tonne of business’ in the region with numerous on its door step in Shannon Ind estate.

Loads of routes work out of SNN including BHX, MAN, EDI, LPL. It has more routes to the US than NCL.

Great for a ‘Airport in the middle of no where’

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Old 2nd Aug 2023, 21:20
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Could do with more none bucket and spade routes.
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Old 2nd Aug 2023, 21:36
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Originally Posted by AVGEEK7812
Airport in the middle of no where? I think not. Its near Limerick and Galway. Very popular cities. Also near loads of tourist attractions in Clare. It has a tonne of business’ in the region with numerous on its door step in Shannon Ind estate.

Loads of routes work out of SNN including BHX, MAN, EDI, LPL. It has more routes to the US than NCL.

Great for a ‘Airport in the middle of no where’
Clearly your passionate about the airport which is good to see. I imagine Newcastle would sustain a US route if it had US pre clearance element to it and of course, Ireland and the US have long and rich cultural links which Newcastle could never replicate.

Limerick and Galway have a combined population of under 200,000 - Sunderland (no airport) has 150,000 more. Newcastle handles millions more passengers than Shannon

But alas, as a hereditary Irish passport holder - I really don't get the defensive nature on this forum sometimes. Your local airport offers what you need and does a job, mine does the same. We all want more and better!
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"Newcastle would sustain a US route if it had US pre clearance element to it"

you'd be paying the US to station several Immigration officers at NCL for one or two flights a day - get real................
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
"Newcastle would sustain a US route if it had US pre clearance element to it"

you'd be paying the US to station several Immigration officers at NCL for one or two flights a day - get real................
Like Shannon you mean? Just a comparison, not a serious suggestion.
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Like Shannon you mean? Just a comparison, not a serious suggestion.
Shannon has numerous jets stopover daily and they use CBP as well.
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And its in Ireland - US rules are different for the Irish

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Old 4th Aug 2023, 11:22
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Originally Posted by AVGEEK7812
Shannon has numerous jets stopover daily and they use CBP as well.
Aren't quite a number of these bizz movements.
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
Aren't quite a number of these bizz movements.
Yes but some also stop to use the CBP. It was extended in Shannon to allow this
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