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Old 11th Sep 2023, 17:42
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What has happened to the Park & Fly car park at Newcastle? I know it closed during covid and that passenger numbers are still about 10% below the pre-covid era but given the low operating costs and the big prices that the airport owned carparks charge it makes me wonder why it has not reopened. Has the airport acquired the land?
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Old 11th Sep 2023, 17:54
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Yes - believe they went bust. The airport must have bought it as this is the plan.

https://www.newcastleairport.com/new...ing-forecourt/
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Old 12th Sep 2023, 08:58
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Originally Posted by tigertanaka
What has happened to the Park & Fly car park at Newcastle? I know it closed during covid and that passenger numbers are still about 10% below the pre-covid era but given the low operating costs and the big prices that the airport owned carparks charge it makes me wonder why it has not reopened. Has the airport acquired the land?
I thought that the airport owned it anyway. It seemed to be using the same booking engine as the main airport car park booking system, but prices much lower. Sometimes if you booked in for short stay (2 - 3 days) they would offer a free "upgrade" to the terminal short-stay car park when you checked in. It was always my preferred option.
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Old 12th Sep 2023, 17:27
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"I thought that the airport owned it anyway."

They did - bought it years ago.
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Old 14th Sep 2023, 15:33
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EasyJet Summer 24

Hi

looks like EasyJet is struggling to compete with the others now.
next summer PMI is (June-august) only
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Old 14th Sep 2023, 16:45
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EasyJet Summer 24...PMI

A chance you could be wrong about PMI ending early....The timetable published is only valid .until 1st Sept. so the rest of Sept. would show on the next publication.

Belfast is 15 wkly and Bristol is 12 wkly. (till 1st Sept)

Aer Lingus still not published the timetable for BHD
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Old 14th Sep 2023, 18:13
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EasyJet Summer 24...PMI

A chance you could be wrong about PMI ending early....The timetable published is only valid .until 1st Sept. so the rest of Sept. would show on the next publication.

Belfast is 15 wkly and Bristol is 12 wkly. (till 1st Sept)

Aer Lingus still not published the timetable for BHD
easyJet Holidays shows PMI available until October 26th
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Old 14th Sep 2023, 18:22
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A little disappointing on the easyJet front, but not too surprised or disheartened really. Shots being called from the Palma end, they decide where the planes go and when. At least we made the cut again. As much as Palma is a no-brainer from NCL, it doesn’t work the same the other way round. There is plenty of capacity on NCL-PMI and EZY is a welcome return, but not devastating that the season appears shorter. I’d like to see EZY do more, and they can, and they should. But will they?

Anxiously awaiting Ryanair, Aer Lingus and Aegean’s intentions with us for S24 now. Lets hope they don’t keep us waiting too much longer and hopefully there’s a little bit of measured growth there. Belfast appears strong, Aegean seems happy with us and fingers crossed we land above Ryanair’s red line!

Jet2 rumoured to be doing Morocco next year, and by all accounts we’re potentially up for that Agadir route, finally! Picking up where Thomson couldn’t.
Given the recent additional aircraft up the road as well, I wonder if another based frame from our biggest airline could be in the pipeline, there’s still room for them

and lastly, will 2024 be the year we finally coax Turkish in?
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Old 14th Sep 2023, 18:40
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Rumours of BRU doing the round with SN. We shall see.
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Old 14th Sep 2023, 20:20
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I’d like to see EZY do more, and they can, and they should. But will they?
Still hankering after the lover who lost interest and then walked away? They're not worth it!!
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Old 14th Sep 2023, 21:16
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Not to sound like a wishful spotter(we have all been there!)

SN Brussels.
TK Istanbul
and Copenhagen with anyone…

My three wish list!
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I'll add NICE to that list....probably Jet2 if it happens.
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Old 15th Sep 2023, 08:33
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Budapest for me.
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Old 15th Sep 2023, 14:27
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Aegean back, ideally for a longer season, as well as retention of all of our existing Ryanair routes (even if some have dropped to summer seasonal) as well as bolstering important links such as EI to DUB/BHD and all of our other legacy carriers would be a priority for me. Keep what we have and be grateful for anything else!

That being said, SN is an interesting one - how many times have we seen back and forth over the years with BRU. SN now has nothing smaller than an A319 and are essentially a hybrid LCC/legacy carrier, so I presume it would be a 3/4 weekly service, not the twice daily regional jets we used to get. It would be good to see BRU return, and definitely a positive to get more Star Alliance/Lufty group representation, but I can't help wonder, would Brussels be better served by a true LCC like Ryanair, NCL-CRL?

Speaking of Star, that brings the matter of Turkish, which I think must be going to happen soon. Turkish are expanding and we must be on their radar, it's only logical. Fingers crossed. You would hope that more from Star Alliance through additional carriers could strengthen routes like NCL-FRA and encourage a second daily service there in the not too distant future. Because Jesus, let me tell you, BA need a kick up the arse and a reality check and the customers need something better, more reliable. Give them the chance to vote with their feet.

As for Copenhagen and Budapest - Perfect for Ryanair. Nice, not so much, but not impossible. I think Jet2 would be the best fit and I am surprised they haven't gone for it already. That, and the massive capacity gap we still have on Barcelona compared to EZY's 5 weekly days. Very surprising.

SWBKCB, you're right. They have potential, and as long as they keep a little bit up at NCL, happy days. You never know when they might want to turn round and offer us a summer seasonal Alicante, or a couple of Berlins a week again. But I wouldn't be chucking all my eggs in the EZY basket.
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Old 16th Sep 2023, 08:18
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You are right about NCL-BRU - there must have been dozens of attempts over the years . I've never understood who would actually fly the route tho'/ No major tourist links, no big business links, S tiny bit of connecting traffic
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Old 16th Sep 2023, 08:23
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You are right about NCL-BRU - there must have been dozens of attempts over the years
I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate. I think there's probably been more goes at CPH.
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One day LM might convert OSLO into a non-stop route.
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Old 16th Sep 2023, 08:57
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You just have to look at a map to see the problem that Newcastle has.

It is a relatively isolated connurbation so fishing in a relatively small pond for customers. You might attract customers from outside the northeast if you can offer destinations which aren't served by EDI, LBA, MAN but as you are starting from a smaller base that is unlikely - it is more likely that NCL is leaking customers to these largerairports. Also you'll attract people on price - hence the long standing school summer holidays switcheroo between NCL, GLA, EDI.

The north east is also relatively poor area compared to the surrounding area, so there is less propensity to fly. It's also less diverse than other regions, so there isn't the VFR demand from various diaspora.

New routes might reduce the leakage to other airports but relatively speaking NCL runs the risk of slicing up the cake into smaller pieces rather than increasing the size of the cake.
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Old 16th Sep 2023, 16:55
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Despite the area served by the airport, it seems to marching on towards and maybe past the 5m pax figure again....I once read that that is the threshold that airlines look for when considering serving a new airport.
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Old 16th Sep 2023, 17:44
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NCL exceeded 5m in the period 2005-2008. The peak in 2007 was 5.6m. 2017, 2018, 2019 were also over 5m, although 2019 was low than 17 and 18.
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