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Old 30th Apr 2023, 05:49
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They must be leasing in German Airways EMB-190's for the summer. Believe there are issues getting engine spares for the new EMB-295's so might be that. Operating under KLM flight numbers, doubt you will notice much difference from your normal flight.
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Old 30th Apr 2023, 05:57
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
They must be leasing in German Airways EMB-190's for the summer. Believe there are issues getting engine spares for the new EMB-295's so might be that. Operating under KLM flight numbers, doubt you will notice much difference from your normal flight.
Ok, thanks.
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Old 30th Apr 2023, 06:25
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
Is that a good or bad experience?
The shed needed a makeover last year.
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Old 30th Apr 2023, 10:14
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Originally Posted by ash666
I'm looking at flights for mid-August and the normal KLM 9.30am hop to AMS says, "Operated by German Airways".
Never seen that before. Anyone know anything about them?
Even a codeshare would normally say KLM.
Presumably shortage of aircraft and theyíre leasing in German Airways to cover. Itís what used to be WDL, now operating E190s these days.
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Old 30th Apr 2023, 10:19
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Originally Posted by mmeteesside
Presumably shortage of aircraft and theyíre leasing in German Airways to cover. Itís what used to be WDL, now operating E190s these days.
Thanks.
I'm pretty sure I've used E190s in the past and no problem putting a cabin bag in the overhead locker.
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Old 30th Apr 2023, 23:30
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
Is that a good or bad experience?
because you haven't got a clue on what the land is like inside the airport perimeter. Most of it is a bog.
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Old 5th May 2023, 19:33
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The North East Economic Forum (NEEF) launched the Saudi – North East England Trade and Investment Dialogue on April 30, building upon significant Saudi investment in the North East and Tees Valley. Alan Donnelly, the executive chairman of sovereign strategy and chair of NEEF, who is hosting His Royal Highness Prince Khalid bin Bander al Saud, Ambassador of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia at a business leaders’ dinner in Durham today, is set to announce the new bilateral relationship.
He commented: “Saudi Arabia is building a significant relationship with the North East of England through its investment in Newcastle United, the new direct flights from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to Newcastle Airport and Alfanar and SABIC’s investments in Teesside. The North East of England has always had a global footprint through international partnerships in business, education and culture - this deepening relationship with Saudi Arabia is an incredible opportunity for our small and medium business community, our universities and colleges and for our tourism industry.
I'm assuming this is a mistake...

https://bdaily.co.uk/articles/2023/0...business-group
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Old 5th May 2023, 20:21
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Sounds about as believable as when they tell you NUFC isn't controlled by the Saudi government...
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Old 6th May 2023, 07:29
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They must be mixing up Manchester with NCL where there is a new service.
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Old 6th May 2023, 07:30
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Originally Posted by Jamesair1
They must be mixing up Manchester with NCL where there is a new service.
New? Are you mixing up Manchester with Birmingham?!
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Old 6th May 2023, 08:20
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New? Are you mixing up Manchester with Birmingham?!
Or they might not be. BHX was a surprise, it is entirely possible that an airline which is there as much a soft power organ of the government as a commercial enterprise might want to muscle in on the Dubai transit market.

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Old 6th May 2023, 09:51
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Or they might not be. BHX was a surprise, it is entirely possible that an airline which is there as much a soft power organ of the government as a commercial enterprise might want to muscle in on the Dubai transit market.
agree BHX was a surprise for most.
they are wanting to grow tourism and grow Saudi to a big hub. Only time will tell.

2x weekly could work on a narrow body maybe but not sure if they have the inwards connections that the north east would require yet
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Old 6th May 2023, 09:55
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Surprises

Saudi will it happen ?

Did anyone see Aegean coming on Athens.?

Tui increasing to 5 aircraft isnít much of a surprise

still think there will be some surprises over the next few years
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Think it could be Riyadh Air instead of Saudia
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Old 6th May 2023, 10:02
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Originally Posted by laviation
Think it could be Riyadh Air instead of Saudia
Based on what?
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Old 6th May 2023, 10:03
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I donít think it will be either TBH. Tui and Aegean are well trodden reliable leisure expansion with minimal risk. Saudia on mid haul when locals have never heard of them or destination is a whole different story unless dirt cheap connections. Just wait til they hear the alcohol rules. I understand NCL alcohol consumption on EK to DXB is one of the highest on network.
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Old 6th May 2023, 10:07
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount
I donít think it will be either TBH. Tui and Aegean are well trodden reliable leisure expansion with minimal risk. Saudia on mid haul when locals have never heard of them or destination is a whole different story unless dirt cheap connections. Just wait til they hear the alcohol rules. I understand NCL alcohol consumption on EK to DXB is one of the highest on network.
I agree - the Saudi's might well want to expand, but plenty of other lower hanging fruit.
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Ryanair is currently loading up the NCL winter schedules......only two missing at the moment GDANSK and RIGA

Changes so far are.....ALICANTE 4 (UP FROM 3) MALAGA 2 (DOWN FROM 3) PAPHOS 2 (NEW FOR WINTER) SHANNON 2 (REPLACING CORK), TENERIFE 3 (UP FROM 2)
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Old 10th May 2023, 10:17
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Originally Posted by Jamesair1
Ryanair is currently loading up the NCL winter schedules......only two missing at the moment GDANSK and RIGA

Changes so far are.....ALICANTE 4 (UP FROM 3) MALAGA 2 (DOWN FROM 3) PAPHOS 2 (NEW FOR WINTER) SHANNON 2 (REPLACING CORK), TENERIFE 3 (UP FROM 2)
still looks like more to come as 1 aircraft isnít being currently used on Tuesday and Wednesday
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Originally Posted by Jamesair1
Ryanair is currently loading up the NCL winter schedules......only two missing at the moment GDANSK and RIGA

Changes so far are.....ALICANTE 4 (UP FROM 3) MALAGA 2 (DOWN FROM 3) PAPHOS 2 (NEW FOR WINTER) SHANNON 2 (REPLACING CORK), TENERIFE 3 (UP FROM 2)
Certainly interesting that they are commiting to the Shannon route as the pax figures are diabolical compared to when Cork was operated.

More routes to Germany would be awesome although I see more bucket and spade routes first.
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