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[Diff Tail Shim]

Originally Posted by Jamesair1

Selection of pax figures for november 23

paris..................7905
dusseldorf..........1651
frankfurt..............3266
cork....................2394
dublin...............17,111
milan..................2332
rome...................2537
amsterdam.......20,398
barcelona............2863
stavanger..............702
prague................2586
riga....................1857
gdansk...............2416
krakow................5762
wroclaw...............2324
dubai...............12,800

paphos.......1343
faro............6021
funchal.......1233
alicante....14,609
malaga.......8049
palma......... 596
arrecife.....12,376
fuerteventura....6510
las palmas..7721
tenerife....22,878
antalya.......3821
dalaman..... 579
hurghada...1402

aberdeen...............764
belfast city...........766
belfast int.........14,771
bristol..................7541
exeter....................861
heathrow..........40,488
southampton......3680

Amazing you can guess the accuracy of pax numbers 10 months in the future.

[Jamesair1]

oops....well spotted......just one of my amazing talents!!!

[HH6702]

Dubai seems low for November?

[OltonPete]

Emirates

Originally Posted by HH6702

Dubai seems low for November?

Correct, based on the expected aircraft just 71% load factor but there were quite a few three class versions (354/360 seats) so more like 77% load factor.

November is not one of the busier months for Dubai looking at the UK figures but that could also be said for the figures pre-Covid.

Pete

[SWBKCB]

Originally Posted by OltonPete

Correct, based on the expected aircraft just 71% load factor but there were quite a few three class versions (354/360 seats) so more like 77% load factor.

November is not one of the busier months for Dubai looking at the UK figures but that could also be said for the figures pre-Covid.

Pete

If you are using load factor as a measure of route performance, is it relevant that they substituted lower capacity a/c on occasions?

Maybe more relevant is that 158t of cargo was carried, 50% more than any other month of the year.

[P330]

Trying to think whether the world cup should have increased Dubai traffic in November or whether it would have subdued it?

[tictack67]

Originally Posted by P330

Trying to think whether the world cup should have increased Dubai traffic in November or whether it would have subdued it?

I'm not sure why it would have increased traffic.

EK don't fly from Dubai to Doha, and they don't codeshare with QR on that route, so a separate ticket would have been needed DXB-DOH £944 return cheapest for one hour flight. many probably travelled 90mins up the road and Caught direct Qatar

[HH6702]

50% increase in cargo is great.
let’s hope this continues.

with Teesside setting up a freight centre I wonder if this will effect Ncl in the years ahead

[SWBKCB]

Originally Posted by HH6702

with Teesside setting up a freight centre I wonder if this will effect Ncl in the years ahead

Virtually all NCL's cargo is carried in the belly of the EK 777 or on the FedEx 737. There is very little ad hoc work. The 'just in time' charters for Nissan on biz jets and small turbo props are so small that they don't trouble the scorers down at the CAA.

[highwideandugly]

For some reason it appears the powers that be decided passengers were the only way at Newcastle.

It appears very little, if any investment has been put into freight or ancillary work..hangers , paint , maintenance.

This is despite a freight base market of Pharmaceuticals,Del la Rue ,Nissan etc. combined with an aviation void in the area , meanwhile, Teesside scraped along, just surviving.

Teesside now appear to have found a market and despite minimal freight so far, it appears that the future could be brighter due to the pro active Mayor and airport management?

[SWBKCB]

For some reason it appears the powers that be decided passengers were the only way at Newcastle. It appears very little, if any investment has been put into freight or ancillary work..hangers , paint , maintenance.

Apart from developing the freight village (at a guess I would say 3 times larger than MME's hangar?), Apron G for mail/freight flights, and the academy. Newcastle doesn't have a lot of spare space for big hangars, the site is a lot smaller than MME

This is despite a freight base market of Pharmaceuticals,Del la Rue ,Nissan etc.

Del la rue is away, and the others won't sustain freight only services. Nissan 'just in time' charters tend to be spilt between NCL/MME depending on origin/operator

Have a look at a map - the urban areas in the northeast are small and surrounded by fields and moorland...

[GrahamK]

De La Rue are still there I think, was a Kuwaiti C17 on its usual visit the other say.

[Beatts]

Originally Posted by highwideandugly

For some reason it appears the powers that be decided passengers were the only way at Newcastle.

It appears very little, if any investment has been put into freight or ancillary work..hangers , paint , maintenance.

This is despite a freight base market of Pharmaceuticals,Del la Rue ,Nissan etc. combined with an aviation void in the area , meanwhile, Teesside scraped along, just surviving.

Teesside now appear to have found a market and despite minimal freight so far, it appears that the future could be brighter due to the pro active Mayor and airport management?

The airport are looking to grow this service, recently announcing a new Cargo Business Development Manager who previously worked with the Emirates skycargo team at Newcastle.

[Jamesair1]

FLYBE have gone into Administration.......no more flights..very sad state of affairs for all concerned..

I wonder if anyone will pick up NCL - BHD....if it was making any money.

[The Flying Stool]

If anyone picks up NCL-BHD, Emerald Airways would be a good bet. The problem is they only have three aircraft on their UK AOC at present to operate from Belfast City. It may come at some point though. It has always been a popular route in the past, running simultaneously with Aldergrove flights.

[Jamesair1]

Blue Islands flying in the Southampton football team tomorrow evening....arr 1835

[highwideandugly]

Anyone know what’s happening to the Easy Jet Bristol route..doesn’t seem to be operating much at all?

Thought it did quite well?

[marko1]

Originally Posted by highwideandugly

Anyone know what’s happening to the Easy Jet Bristol route..doesn’t seem to be operating much at all?

Thought it did quite well?

seems as so easyjet seems to be slowly reducing it to oblivion doesn’t it ? It’s always popular - for a large swathe of the summer there won’t be a Saturday service at all - far cry from 3-4 daily

[SWBKCB]

Slack time of the year - seems to be 2 a day over summer, 1 on Tuesday, 3 on Friday when there is no Saturday

[tigertanaka]

My understanding was that Easyjet use short distance routes such as BFS-NCL and BRS-NCL as filler when they would otherwise have aircraft on the ground. Loads can be really strong but yields are often not great but they keep the planes in the air, generating revenue.