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[SWBKCB]

Presumably the industry wide staff shortages - NCL, MME and Leeming all have closures this week

[highwideandugly]

Teesside closures? Don’t think so…AFS reductions maybe, but no airfield closures?

My point is..can’t remember in years…many years , this ever happening especially at Newcastle, just at a time when airports, airlines and stakeholders (I hate that btw) need to get their act together for the sake of this great industry and the travelling public…

So is it bad management…or bad management!

[nighthawk117]

Originally Posted by highwideandugly

Teesside closures? Don’t think so…AFS reductions maybe, but no airfield closures?

My point is..can’t remember in years…many years , this ever happening especially at Newcastle, just at a time when airports, airlines and stakeholders (I hate that btw) need to get their act together for the sake of this great industry and the travelling public…

So is it bad management…or bad management!

or a global pandemic of which the like has never been seen before?

[almost professional]

If Newcastle was struggling to recruit/retain ATCOs pre pandemic then that situation will be much worse now, to advertise/recruit/validate someone new minimum 9 months and often over a year if Radar controller needed. I would guess that there is no pool of qualified controllers looking to move after the last couple of years…..

[SWBKCB]

A major travel company has been forced to apologise after passengers arrived in Florida to find that their luggage was over 4,000 miles away in Newcastle. Holidaymakers arrived at Melbourne Orlando International Airport on Monday only to learn that their luggage had not been loaded onto the plane at Newcastle International Airport. Some passengers say they were left without pushchairs, baby formula, nappies and medication due to the error.

OK - sh*t happens and I'm sure there is more to this than meets the eye, but I'm curious as to how you miss a 787 worth of bags at Newcastle?

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news...astle-23917384

[ash666]

Someone soon needs to be an ex-employee.

[Saabandthecity]

TUI missing bags

It boiled down to TUI not loading enough containers on the 787 inbound and NCL not stocking them with no other ways to secure the bags in the hold for transit.

For example no pallets or cargo nets and no net retaining system in a hold designed for pallets/containers.

Added to the restriction in the bulk hold for weight and balance purposes.

Hopes this clarifies the situation.

[GrahamK]

Was that why an extra 787 flew BHX-NCL-MAN today.
about the same time as an E3-Sentry was conducting some training.

[SWBKCB]

Yes - the extra 787 came to pick them up.

[skyman771]

Baggage handling at NCL

It would appear that there remain issues in respect of baggage handling at NCL .
This years flight schedules provide for a number of returning flights that arrive back c.01.00 the following morning.
Case in point last Friday there were five 738's 4xJet2 & 1xTUI that arrived around same time. However the TUI disembarked first & were first through security & into the baggage hall, followed by the pax from the four other Jet2 aircraft.
What then ensued was that the TUI pax had to stand around for an hour & a half whilst all four JET2 flights luggage came through first. An irate conversation then ensued with the baggage supervisor on duty who informed them that JET2 had their own baggage handler whereas TUI used Swissport?....
So what's this all about ?

[N707ZS]

No spare containers at the airport.

[P330]

LS542

Hearing of a near 24 hour delay on yesterday‘s Jet2 return leg from Gran Canaria. Looks like the aircraft diverted to Porto on the way home and is still there.

[SWBKCB]

Originally Posted by P330

Hearing of a near 24 hour delay on yesterday‘s Jet2 return leg from Gran Canaria. Looks like the aircraft diverted to Porto on the way home and is still there.

The LS542 from Gran Canaria to Newcastle was diverted to Porto, in Portugal, to allow for a "disruptive passenger" to be offloaded from the flight

Jet2 flight to Newcastle diverted to Portugal due to 'disruptive passenger'

[rog747]

It was usual to be able to bulk load Hold bags on wide bodies like the 767, DC-10 and Tri-Star - just wondered why you cannot on the 787>?

It operates to enough remote holiday airports that the question of always having enough 'cans' available thus could be an issue.
or you carry the empties with you....

Is it (a 787) too fragile to lump the bags straight in the hold>?

[brian_dromey]

Originally Posted by skyman771

What then ensued was that the TUI pax had to stand around for an hour & a half whilst all four JET2 flights luggage came through first. An irate conversation then ensued with the baggage supervisor on duty who informed them that JET2 had their own baggage handler whereas TUI used Swissport?....
So what's this all about ?

Its about the choice Jet2 and TUI have made. Jet2 have their own ground and baggage staff at many UK airports (but not all, I don't think) and even at some European ports too. They handle Jet2 and only Jet2 flights. This is very much against the trend in the industry where the function is usually outsourced to 'experts' - ground handling companies. Because of razor-thin margins in the industry, Swissport is the only company left at a lot of airports. For employees T&C's aren't great, physical work in unergonomic conditions or aircraft holds, in all weather.
Do people get "irate" at the Occao driver when Sainbusry's fails to deliver their shopping on time?

[beedoubleu]

Good news for 23 just read on Edinburgh thread via Routes online

Sun Express starting Ncl (and Brs)

[JKKne]

Apologies if this should be in the SLF forum but are Namco and the Traveller shop still open at Newcastle?

[Jamesair1]

Good news about Sun Express, .presumably we don't know the actual destinations in Turkey or the planned frequencies yet.

[GAXLN]

Originally Posted by Jamesair1

Good news about Sun Express, .presumably we don't know the actual destinations in Turkey or the planned frequencies yet.

Antalya is the most likely start-up destination

[Jamesair1]

That would put them head to head with fellow Turkish operator Corendon plus Jet2 and TUI