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Old 9th Apr 2022, 10:59
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Originally Posted by Buster the Bear
A new airline planning Manchester operations.

https://www.air101.co.uk/2022/04/air...uk-sentra.html
Can move this into the Manchester Airport thread ?

Seems sort of legitimate are registered at Companies House through £600k reserves ain’t going to last are they ?

Quite like their initially registered name Magestic Mallard !

And as for Ghana as a starting point from Manchester with a single plane 🤔
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Guys sorry yes wrong thread to ask
this on but I presume someone will know? Can I fly to Spain twice in one week? I’ve tried looking for info everywhere on the regulations! I fly back from Alicante next Monday after a weekend away then fly out to Malaga the following day for a holiday with friends! Do you think I will get stopped when I arrive into Malaga as I only left Spain the day before?

any info is appreciated - let’s see who wants their 5 mins of fame today over the internet/papers with how they missed their flights at Manchester due to the queues and how they lost out on £3000 etc etc!
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Old 10th Apr 2022, 06:33
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I cannot think of an issue with that, but why bother coming back to Manchester for such a short time and face the congestion issues twice within 24hrs, they have launderettes and dry cleaners in Spain so it can not be for clean clothing ?
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Old 10th Apr 2022, 06:39
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I cannot think of an issue with that, but why bother coming back to Manchester for such a short time and face the congestion issues twice within 24hrs, they have launderettes and dry cleaners in Spain so it can not be for clean clothing ?
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flights already booked plus it was over £150 to fly from Alicante to Malaga! Thanks for the advice tho. £9.99 from Manchester!
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Originally Posted by Mark J Bowcock
I fly back from Alicante next Monday after a weekend away then fly out to Malaga the following day for a holiday with friends! Do you think I will get stopped when I arrive into Malaga as I only left Spain the day before?
I can’t think of any reason why you might be considered to be a money launderer mule or drug runner.
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Old 10th Apr 2022, 07:49
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Originally Posted by Mark J Bowcock
Can I fly to Spain twice in one week? I’ve tried looking for info everywhere on the regulations! I fly back from Alicante next Monday after a weekend away then fly out to Malaga the following day for a holiday with friends! Do you think I will get stopped when I arrive into Malaga as I only left Spain the day before?
By no means unknown. People go on pre-booked holiday with family, then go back for one day, key board meeting, signing commercial documents, colleagues' funeral, etc. You even get some day returns if schedules allow. Obviously the revenue department at the airline are fine with it ! Over on FlyerTalk they are past masters at this, sometimes referred to there as a "Mileage Run".
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By no means unknown. People go on pre-booked holiday with family, then go back for one day, key board meeting, signing commercial documents, colleagues' funeral, etc. You even get some day returns if schedules allow. Obviously the revenue department at the airline are fine with it ! Over on FlyerTalk they are past masters at this, sometimes referred to there as a "Mileage Run".
Thanks for the info. I didn’t know you could just go for the day as the Spanish PLF asks for accommodation details!
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Originally Posted by Mark J Bowcock
Thanks for the info. I didn’t know you could just go for the day as the Spanish PLF asks for accommodation details!
if full vaccinated you don't need to do a PLF
Personally I'd go from Alicante to Malaga
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Originally Posted by lfc84
if full vaccinated you don't need to do a PLF
Personally I'd go from Alicante to Malaga
you have to fill the Spanish PLF form in! It’s compulsory
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Originally Posted by Rutan16
Well put as said several times the FAULTS are squarely at the Head of securities feet.

As for IFM well only interested in dividends and right now MAG aren’t delivering those and neither are their Australian airports including Sydney and Brisbane where similar security issues have been sighted . Coincidence maybe 🤔

Even the current headlines for both airports are identical !
Suspect sacking of KS was more to do with senior management saving their bacon.

I'm astounded that some are placing all the emphasis on security when that manager has a BOSS.

If the team keeps losing you don"t blame the trainer you blame the manager !




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Originally Posted by Navpi
Suspect sacking of KS was more to do with senior management saving their bacon.

I'm astounded that some are placing all the emphasis on security when that manager has a BOSS.

If the team keeps losing you don"t blame the trainer you blame the manager !
An that boss perhaps has the wrong team 😉 Route and branch change necessary and the Head of Security still needs to consider his/her position Perhaps a personal improvement plan 😉if you know I I mean
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Why didn’t you look at the train about €40 and a pleasant enough journey on RENFEs wide and spacious Spanish gauge trains .You could have sampled genuine Spain foods and culture of Albacete especially near Easter.
The route isn’t direct you do go along way in land to connect to the AVE lines still I’d do that any day .
Takes a nice half day travel time
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Originally Posted by Rutan16
An that boss perhaps has the wrong team 😉 Route and branch change necessary and the Head of Security still needs to consider his/her position Perhaps a personal improvement plan 😉if you know I I mean
100% agree the manager brought in the backroom staff so yes some of those need go as well.

No one at the top seems to think the current crisis which is the tip of the iceberg in terms of a downward spiral in the overall operational capabilities of Manchester is their responsibility, blame seems to be tilted toward "events outside their control".

Well hang on, was it not MAG who were demanding the loosening of controls for months?

Surely anyone could have anticipated the step change in demand, and repositioned themselves accordingly if not why were they themselves demanding this ?

The current problems are symptomatic of neglect.

Its chaos in the terminal.
Its chaos in terms of infastructure or lack of it.
And its chaos in terms of cargo facilities /supply chain.








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You don't work in business do you navpi?
You don't spend more money than you think you can get away with. In reality any CEO has the board asking "Did you really need to spend THAT much?" The whole rationale is to maximise shareholder value NOT operational efficiency. MAG have a captive audience.
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
You don't work in business do you navpi?
You don't spend more money than you think you can get away with. In reality any CEO has the board asking "Did you really need to spend THAT much?" The whole rationale is to maximise shareholder value NOT operational efficiency. MAG have a captive audience.
You do work in consultancy don't you skip.
Lots of the usual "consultancy hot air" evidenced here.

i presume one therefore has sympathies with a rise in senior management salaries whilst the airports terminals were effectively shut ?

Maybe the shareholders SHOULD be asking

"Did you really need to spend that".

Ps Shareholder value is driven by operational efficiency.
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I no longer work in consultancy. I merely observe that your complaints while valid are missing the point. Rage as you will, nothing is going to change until a strategic direction moves from the top, and I see no evidence of that being likely. The CFO will continue to point out to anyone tempted to invest their way out of this mess that that the balance sheet is in a mess and so the answer should be no. CEOs are often constrained, even if they wanted to do something, colleagues will often conspire to stop them.

It's naive to say "shareholder value is driven by operational efficiency". Long term can be, short term is not. And frankly remuneration of the decision makers is driven by short to medium term value add. Today's CEO will be long gone before the value is banked and by then he won't get the credit. And no, am not defending this, I just work among them..... So cut the "oh Skipness must love the boss class as the poor suffer". Geez!
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Originally Posted by Mark J Bowcock
you have to fill the Spanish PLF form in! It’s compulsory
If fully vaccinated you do not need to fill in the Spanish PLF.

You simply show the NHS app.

I know, because I travelled to Spain yesterday and I can also read the updates
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Originally Posted by lfc84
If fully vaccinated you do not need to fill in the Spanish PLF.

You simply show the NHS app.

I know, because I travelled to Spain yesterday and I can also read the updates
sorry no need to be ratty! I’m just reading from 6th April it got scrapped but not much info on it! I know masks get scrapped from 19th/20th April?
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
I no longer work in consultancy. I merely observe that your complaints while valid are missing the point. Rage as you will, nothing is going to change until a strategic direction moves from the top, and I see no evidence of that being likely. The CFO will continue to point out to anyone tempted to invest their way out of this mess that that the balance sheet is in a mess and so the answer should be no. CEOs are often constrained, even if they wanted to do something, colleagues will often conspire to stop them.

It's naive to say "shareholder value is driven by operational efficiency". Long term can be, short term is not. And frankly remuneration of the decision makers is driven by short to medium term value add. Today's CEO will be long gone before the value is banked and by then he won't get the credit. And no, am not defending this, I just work among them..... So cut the "oh Skipness must love the boss class as the poor suffer". Geez!

Oh do grow up skip and save me the wounded party narrative.

You respond with some decent comments but as usual seem unable to resist the tiresome sniping.... it seems to be an elixir on which you dine

"You don't work in business" or "rage as you will".

(Well by way of balance, i do have my own business and I'm certainly not raging , yet again those are your words not mine) so why make this stuff up ?

You then have the temerity to feel hurt when someone sits you down.

I do actually enjoy the factual observations but let's leave the fictional stuff out.



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Apologies basgo, I'll try harder 😉
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