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Old 2nd Mar 2022, 22:41
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Highly likely these will be EUK flights operated by Emerald? Or even BACF flights operated by Emerald.
I think the Stobart flights were actually BACF in some roundabout way. This was before EUK was an operating airline, I think even LHR-BHD was operated as a ‘wetlease’ at one point.
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Old 3rd Mar 2022, 05:35
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Originally Posted by brian_dromey
Highly likely these will be EUK flights operated by Emerald? Or even BACF flights operated by Emerald.
I think the Stobart flights were actually BACF in some roundabout way. This was before EUK was an operating airline, I think even LHR-BHD was operated as a ‘wetlease’ at one point.
Indeed - because Stobart was an Irish company they operated 'on behalf of BACF' to get around this at BHD.
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Old 3rd Mar 2022, 07:29
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Given up waiting for MAN-BHD flights going on sale for the end of March. I see that they have now just appeared at last, fares £344 one way.
Based on this, we've booked to Portugal instead.
Well done Are Lingus/ Emerald.
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Old 3rd Mar 2022, 07:43
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Originally Posted by Mr A Tis
Given up waiting for MAN-BHD flights going on sale for the end of March. I see that they have now just appeared at last, fares £344 one way.
Based on this, we've booked to Portugal instead.
Well done Are Lingus/ Emerald.
often the first fares are full fares and cheaper fares are loaded shortly after.
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Old 3rd Mar 2022, 08:32
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Even if cheaper fares become available, less than three weeks notice before travel isn't enough time to make plans.
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Old 3rd Mar 2022, 08:50
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I genuinely don't understand prices like that, especially when easyJet are doing it for £60 rtn to Aldergrove.
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Old 3rd Mar 2022, 09:57
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Flights are now available for most dates at more reasonable fares. £37.80 for the last days of March.

As I said before most carriers load fares with the highest first and it can take a day or two for them to come down.
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Old 3rd Mar 2022, 11:05
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Much more reasonable!
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Old 3rd Mar 2022, 14:33
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They must have still forfeited alot of potential bookings by putting flights on sale so late. Like Mr A Tis, I too have made alternative arrangements for my mid-April NI trip ... no flights were offered BHD-MAN when I needed to finalise my itinerary.
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Old 4th Mar 2022, 19:16
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Originally Posted by Mr A Tis
Given up waiting for MAN-BHD flights going on sale for the end of March. I see that they have now just appeared at last, fares £344 one way.
Based on this, we've booked to Portugal instead.
Well done Are Lingus/ Emerald.

you should have just booked BFS…
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Old 5th Mar 2022, 10:35
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They must have still forfeited alot of potential bookings by putting flights on sale so late. Like Mr A Tis, I too have made alternative arrangements for my mid-April NI trip ... no flights were offered BHD-MAN when I needed to finalise my itinerary.
You could be right based on the easy BHX-BFS fares - In the first week of the summer season (BHX-BHD only bookable in the last few days) the easy fares on some days go up to £353 one way outbound and £308 inbound and it is not even school holidays. Of course there are some £25 fares at times during the week but I have never seen these kind of fares on domestic unless there was a major show on at the NEC or sporting events. Some of this is mitigated by the fact easy reduce the frequency from 28-30 per week to 20 but you can't help but feel EI/Emerald have lost some bookings and Flybe 2 if they are intending to operate on the route.

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Old 5th Mar 2022, 10:38
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I suspect their hand was forced into announcing the routes before there were really ready to announce them probably due in part to the talked about ‘imminent’ announcement from Flybe who are likely to be in direct competition on several routes from BHD. Given that there will only be initially x1 flight/day to MAN says to me that they will be spreading themselves a bit thin in order to start earlier than they would have liked.
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Old 5th Mar 2022, 12:18
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you should have just booked BFS…
Because Aer Lingus withdrew the booking facility for MAN/BHX - BHD, the easy fares soared. For me, with bags was looking at just shy of £200 for MAN/BFS
As I needed to firm up plans, now going to Portugal.
Anyhow the Emerald schedule isn't very inviting either, once a day & a late evening departure from MAN.
There is appears reduction in overall service to NI, thus fares are up.
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Old 24th Mar 2022, 11:03
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Dublin lends Aer Lingus €200mn, Emerald Airlines €6mn

Aer Lingus Airbus A320-200© Aer Lingus
24.03.2022 - 06:44 UTCAer Lingus (EI, Dublin Int'l) has agreed a new EUR200 million euro (USD220 million) loan with the Irish sovereign wealth fund, having already received a similar EUR150 million (USD165 million) debt facility from the Ireland Strategic Investment Fund (ISIF) last year, the fund revealed in a statement on March 22.

The new three-year debt deal brings the ISIF’s total funding commitment to the airline to EUR350 million (USD385 million) and “is designed to complement ongoing support” provided by parent company IAG International Airlines Group.

The facility, provided via the ISIF’s EUR2 billion (USD2.2 billion) Pandemic Stabilisation and Recovery Fund, aims to support the airline in its recovery from the impact of Covid-19. The fund and Aer Lingus have agreed commercial terms on the structure, pricing, and repayment of the loan.

ISIF has also agreed a EUR6 million (USD6.6 million) debt facility with Emerald Airlines (Ireland) (EA, Dublin Int'l), which operates the Aer Lingus Regional franchise and commenced flight operations in late February. This “will support its launch and scale-up over the coming months,” the fund said, so that “when fully operational, Emerald Airlines is expected to bring over 500,000 tourists to the island every year while supporting over 400 Irish-based staff and over 250 indirect jobs.”

“Providing debt funding to the Irish aviation sector, through Aer Lingus and Emerald, will also help Ireland's hospitality and leisure sectors by supporting a rebound in tourist traffic into Ireland and bringing more customers to these businesses,” opined ISIF Director Nick Ashmore.

Aer Lingus CFO Elizabeth Haun said the pandemic had caused operating losses at the flag carrier of EUR361 million (USD397 million) in 2020 and EUR347 million (USD382 million) in 2021. In 2019, Aer Lingus had posted a EUR276 million (USD304 million) operating profit on revenue of EUR2.1 billion (USD2.3 billion).

IAG CFO Steve Gunning said last month that Aer Lingus had “probably had the toughest time of all of our operating companies” in 2021. The group also includes British Airways, Iberia, Vueling Airlines, and LEVEL. Ireland’s peripheral location and strict travel restrictions created an extremely difficult operating environment for the carrier, he explained.
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Old 18th Jul 2022, 15:54
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Any truth to the rumour the UK CAA has refused the AOC on the basis of Emeralds financial position? How long can they piggy back on the Aer Lingus UK AOC to operate from BHD?
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Old 24th Aug 2022, 21:18
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Originally Posted by Hearmenow
Any truth to the rumour the UK CAA has refused the AOC on the basis of Emeralds financial position? How long can they piggy back on the Aer Lingus UK AOC to operate from BHD?
Do you mind informing us as to where you heard this rumour?
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Old 24th Aug 2022, 23:56
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Originally Posted by Hearmenow
Any truth to the rumour the UK CAA has refused the AOC on the basis of Emeralds financial position? How long can they piggy back on the Aer Lingus UK AOC to operate from BHD?
Total troll. Source of rumour?
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Old 25th Aug 2022, 02:42
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I think it is the granting of a type A Operating Licence that depends on financial stability, whereas the AOC is more about safety regulation. No OL without an AOC though.
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Old 25th Aug 2022, 11:40
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Would anyone care to analyse Emerald's (audited) financial position so we can debate based on something reasonably factual ?
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Old 25th Aug 2022, 12:05
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