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Old 27th Oct 2020, 14:25
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Emerald Airlines

It appears there is a new Irish start up vying for the EI regional business. Conor McCarthy is heading up the company.
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Old 27th Oct 2020, 14:48
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Dublin Aerospace - who have just taken over Flybe's engineering company
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Old 27th Oct 2020, 18:02
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Wasn't there an Emerald Airways working from EGAA 40 years ago? Seem to recall a couple of Daks and px version of the Short Skyvan. Memory shaky but I think the much respected Mike Woodgate flew the Daks before founding the charter company that still bears his name.
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Old 27th Oct 2020, 18:39
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There was an Emerald Airways, based Liverpool I think maybe 10 years or so ago. Used to do a lot of cargo flying on HS748's and also passenger flights to Isle of Man on ATP's which eventually got taken over by Manx. They had their AOC suspended by the CAA and then ultimately disappeared from memory.
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Old 27th Oct 2020, 23:26
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if they win the contract then it will be interesting what type of aircraft they bring in to operate the routes. Time will tell .
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Old 27th Oct 2020, 23:31
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It won't be Atp's...
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Old 28th Oct 2020, 00:01
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Geriaviator - Quite correct on the history of Emerald Airways. Founded by Walter Scott, but there wasn't the business and the Skyvan 2 with horrible Astazous was less than perfect. I was Flight Test Engineer on production testing on both G-ATPF and 'G. G-ATPF was the first Skyvan flown with the big back door open - a very small claim to fame and mark in history!
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Old 28th Oct 2020, 00:34
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I dont think there would be any surprise with a glut of ex EIr ATRs and BE DH8s.
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Old 28th Oct 2020, 08:13
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I flew with emerald to Isle of Man once. Interesting experience as there was a bad thunderstorm in the way , the pilot tried to avoid by going past Dublin then decided to just go for it through the middle. Quite scary!

the return was less exciting , we had to wait 90 minutes for our baggage. The Emerald rep told us EasyJet regularly ‘bribed’ the ground staff to service their aircraft first to achieve turn round times.

only flew with them as they were cheaper and quicker than the catamaran ferry.
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Old 28th Oct 2020, 09:42
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They were originally from Blackpool and known as Janes Aviation, they changed their name to Emerald when they moved to Liverpool where their cargo and passenger ops grew with the introduction of ATPs , it was HS748s firstly. They competed with Euromanx I think.
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Old 28th Oct 2020, 09:51
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If I remember correctly Euromanx took over the passenger ops while Emerald continued for another year with freight. You're right that it was formerly Janes Aviation. The company had more than 20 HS748s. Not to confuse matters, the other Emerald operated Skyvans in the 1960s. Not related.
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Old 28th Oct 2020, 11:40
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It all seems so long ago now, and I cant recall everything. Did Manx become Euromanx ? Anyhow when they were both operating at their height the combo of Emerald and Euromanx really pushed up the passenger figures on LPL-IOM-LPL.
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Old 7th Nov 2020, 13:48
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Emerald Airlines

Nothing to do with the old UK airline, but it looks like Connor McCarthy (of Dublin Aerospace) has applied for a new Irish AOC.
Interesting to see if it happens !
https://www.irishtimes.com/topics/to...erald+Airlines
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Old 13th Nov 2020, 21:36
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EI Regional contract awarded to Emerald Airlines, as per the Irish Independent
McCarthy clinches contract for Aer Lingus Regional
https://www.independent.ie/business/...-39745380.html
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interesting news, no doubt Stobart’s involvement with the Flybe/Virgin venture did them no favours with IAG.
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Old 13th Nov 2020, 22:17
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While this interesting, im going to guess the Cityjet buying Stobart Air might be cancelled then?
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Old 13th Nov 2020, 22:20
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Without the EIR contract, does Stobart Air have a value? This does seem to have moved very quickly.
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Old 13th Nov 2020, 22:23
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Who would want to buy and airline with 100 million liability and no future work. Stobart were looking to sell the airline by the end of the year !
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Old 13th Nov 2020, 22:24
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Almost bizarrely quickly, almost as if its all part of a bigger picture that us mere mortals don't know what all the parts are.
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Old 13th Nov 2020, 22:34
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Surely a deal has been done between this new Emerald outfit and Stobart Group for the sale of Stobart Air to Emerald. Nothing else makes sense.

Emerald are about a month old with no aircraft, staff or track record. They must be buying Stobart Air and have based the bid around that and maybe the promise of injecting some cash.
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