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Yes technically you are right, it is wrong to sell flights that are not operating but it could be as simple as the iT department have not caught up with the directive from their route planning team.
To be honest if anyone is daft enough to think basic economy is £1400 return does not get too much sympathy from me when the Primera website clearly shows the day before and day after as £189 one way.
It shouldn't happen but it does and it not just Primera. Booking Newark of course is not as bad as you can re-book or chose the day before or day after for a reasonable fare although Boston you can't and you would have to wait months or rebook from Stansted.
Also there is no official announcement although GDS is clear about the revised schedule and GDS is correct as far as I know.
Yes technically you are right, it is wrong to sell flights that are not operating but it could be as simple as the iT department have not caught up with the directive from their route planning team.
To be honest if anyone is daft enough to think basic economy is £1400 return does not get too much sympathy from me when the Primera website clearly shows the day before and day after as £189 one way.
It shouldn't happen but it does and it not just Primera. Booking Newark of course is not as bad as you can re-book or chose the day before or day after for a reasonable fare although Boston you can't and you would have to wait months or rebook from Stansted.
Also there is no official announcement although GDS is clear about the revised schedule and GDS is correct as far as I know.
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It’s been said before, book with a credit card any fee ( not now legal in the UK) is worth the fee to insure against this project not flying.
ETOPS or lack of is not a show stopper but adds cost due to longer flights limiting payload, a bigger show stopper will be crews without C1 visas
ETOPS or lack of is not a show stopper but adds cost due to longer flights limiting payload, a bigger show stopper will be crews without C1 visas
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Think it would have been safer (if all new bases are affected) to choose Stansted run a full planned operations and maybe have Birmingham as short haul holiday routes just until you get things sorted even if the problem is real and bigger than speculated it would be better to lease a few aircraft to run a full operation from Stansted what’s the point in pissing off passengers at all new bases.
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A tall order to use social media as maybe the main source of revenue production, however, it certainly works. I guess the a/c will interchange between longhaul / shorthaul but that leads me to assume there will be a heck of a lot of seats on the a/c. Minimum washrooms (2). The trick is to get returning custom as well and quickly. Someone suggested good management well did not Carrilion and Monarch have that, plus to many companies gone west to mention.
I would suggest that the uptake of route operation will have to be reduced anyway as this mark of a/c is yet to be tried and tested. The B787 engine problem is a typical example of how quickly things can go wrong.
It is a bold step and i wish them the best. Mind I do not know many midlanders that would pay £6 for a meal let alone £60 (no offence - but I can only speak as I have found). The downside I suppose is that if it does OK how long before competition arrives and is our appetite fuelled by credit able to sustain more flying?
I would suggest that the uptake of route operation will have to be reduced anyway as this mark of a/c is yet to be tried and tested. The B787 engine problem is a typical example of how quickly things can go wrong.
It is a bold step and i wish them the best. Mind I do not know many midlanders that would pay £6 for a meal let alone £60 (no offence - but I can only speak as I have found). The downside I suppose is that if it does OK how long before competition arrives and is our appetite fuelled by credit able to sustain more flying?
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It will be fascinating to see how this unfolds, from Wikipedia they have just 7 or 8 aircraft in their current fleet and seemed to have made around €8m on a turnover of 260m.
The start up costs will be substantial to say the least and the brand is virtually unknown in Europe let alone the USA, no feed or connecting traffic that I can see, so totally reliant on point to point traffic.
I would say that they are betting the company on this venture, Norwegian did the same with long haul, but they were 10 times bigger and started from bases where they were well known and it nearly sunk them and they are still less profitable now than they were then!!
The start up costs will be substantial to say the least and the brand is virtually unknown in Europe let alone the USA, no feed or connecting traffic that I can see, so totally reliant on point to point traffic.
I would say that they are betting the company on this venture, Norwegian did the same with long haul, but they were 10 times bigger and started from bases where they were well known and it nearly sunk them and they are still less profitable now than they were then!!
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Looking at their website, under plan your trip, then looking at transatlantic flights, Boston is only shown as serving STN and CDG not mention of BHX what so ever.
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Maybe a bit ambitious from the start but they need to get something sorted and make some big decisions this is going to get out soon beyond this forum and it could be catastrophic if it were me I would concentrate on one UK base get it right before expanding routes and bases I personally would scrap BHX all together put everything into STN as I understand STN is selling considerably better than BHX time will tell be interesting to see what happens over the next month or so.
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There certainly appears signs of drift that needs sorting ASAP and yet the management seem oblivious.
It always seemed odd duplicating routes that are relatively close to each other at the UK end.
It's turning into a complete mess.
It always seemed odd duplicating routes that are relatively close to each other at the UK end.
It's turning into a complete mess.
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I’m hearing some passengers on flights from Birmingham to both Boston and Newyork have this evening received emails advising that their flights have been cancelled.
I’m not hearing anything regarding Stansted flights at this time.
I’m not hearing anything regarding Stansted flights at this time.
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I've posted the following on the Birmingham thread taken from another forum: "The website has now been updated, New York is daily until Jun 23rd when it goes 4x weekly and there is nothing available for Boston. Toronto remains unaffected".
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Well at least some schedule is better than none I just hope they have sorted it out quickly enough and people have not yet been put off from booking.
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Booked with them for a PMI BHX flight very soon after the start date, hopefully nothing I need to worry about. Very good price though, £80 including a bag. Booked with a credit card though just in case!
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Primera Air has a record year as it prepares to launch new transatlantic routes
Primera Air issued this statement:
2017 was a record year for Primera Air – the airline has carried more than 1 million passengers with a total number of 1,017,657. Direct sales on the website have grown a staggering 125.8% and the Company’s revenue has increased by 13.7% compared to 2016. All figures have been reached with a consistent load factor of 85%.
Primera Air is opening new bases in Birmingham (BHX), London Stansted (STN) and Paris Charles de Gaulle (CDG) to commence flights to New York, Boston and Toronto in April, along with new routes from the UK to Málaga, Palma de Mallorca, Alicante, Barcelona and Chania.
In the next two years, Primera Air plans to increase its presence at its current bases and to add new transatlantic routes and bases, as the airline has 20 new Boeing 737-9 MAX 9s on order.
Primera Air is a scheduled carrier serving flights to more than 70 destinations in Europe. The airline is based in Denmark and Latvia and is part of the Primera Travel Group, which includes travel agencies and tour operators in Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland, Iceland and Estonia.
http://worldairlinenews.com/2018/01/...lantic-routes/
Primera Air issued this statement:
2017 was a record year for Primera Air – the airline has carried more than 1 million passengers with a total number of 1,017,657. Direct sales on the website have grown a staggering 125.8% and the Company’s revenue has increased by 13.7% compared to 2016. All figures have been reached with a consistent load factor of 85%.
Primera Air is opening new bases in Birmingham (BHX), London Stansted (STN) and Paris Charles de Gaulle (CDG) to commence flights to New York, Boston and Toronto in April, along with new routes from the UK to Málaga, Palma de Mallorca, Alicante, Barcelona and Chania.
In the next two years, Primera Air plans to increase its presence at its current bases and to add new transatlantic routes and bases, as the airline has 20 new Boeing 737-9 MAX 9s on order.
Primera Air is a scheduled carrier serving flights to more than 70 destinations in Europe. The airline is based in Denmark and Latvia and is part of the Primera Travel Group, which includes travel agencies and tour operators in Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland, Iceland and Estonia.
http://worldairlinenews.com/2018/01/...lantic-routes/
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Some pretty disgruntled passengers here
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Well given the MAX can’t do westbound from Ireland or Scotland direct to the east coast with a full load in anything other than very favourable wind conditions the MAX 9 will have no chance from BHX let alone STN & CDG, anyway I thought this outfit was getting the A321 NeoLR ?