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This summer I flew STN-KIR-LTN with FR. Kerry airport!! Once all the passengers had deposited their baggage, most of the visible staff joined us for a farewell drink before boarding!
Airports come in all shapes and sizes.
Airports come in all shapes and sizes.
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Well Stobart like to talk up plans for the airport. I has a witness when a senior staff member was only too delighted to speak of first the runway resurfacing - involving closing it ( after the permanent biz jet goes to Southend for the duration ).
Pax flights still said to start next year . And they claimed EZY are wanting in due to the same freebie deal they gave them at Southend.
What I did find a bit ity was the idea they were ' speaking to another Irish airline '.
Given if I'm right in thinking Are Lingus still have some involvement - it's clearly not them.
But to insinuate FR . I may have posted before about this but it's no fantasy.
Said manager ( not naming ) was senior ' going by the I'd tag and seemed keen.
Maybe just maybe a limited summer only 2 route Charter for EZY eventually .
But not before Stobart can prove they can fill a tiny prop.
Finally . Rail operation ? Is this an office or a rail link too if so to where ?.
Nearest would be former stub of Waverley route south somewhere be Longtown ?.
Pax flights still said to start next year . And they claimed EZY are wanting in due to the same freebie deal they gave them at Southend.
What I did find a bit ity was the idea they were ' speaking to another Irish airline '.
Given if I'm right in thinking Are Lingus still have some involvement - it's clearly not them.
But to insinuate FR . I may have posted before about this but it's no fantasy.
Said manager ( not naming ) was senior ' going by the I'd tag and seemed keen.
Maybe just maybe a limited summer only 2 route Charter for EZY eventually .
But not before Stobart can prove they can fill a tiny prop.
Finally . Rail operation ? Is this an office or a rail link too if so to where ?.
Nearest would be former stub of Waverley route south somewhere be Longtown ?.
If you look at the plans, well over half of the Terminal building is actually office accommodation for Stobart Rail.
Again, looking at the planned terminal and apron size, there would have to be considerable changes made to accommodate anything bigger than the proposed ATR's.
Clearly plans can change, but these were only submitted in June this year.
Again, looking at the planned terminal and apron size, there would have to be considerable changes made to accommodate anything bigger than the proposed ATR's.
Clearly plans can change, but these were only submitted in June this year.
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Current planning permission is
15. Passenger and/or cargo fixed wing aircraft movements shall be limited to the
following types of aircraft: Jetstream 41; DHC-8Q400; ATR 42; ATR 72; and
RJ146 (or aircraft of equivalent characteristics in terms of size, weight, carrying
capacity, noise, and other polluting emissions).
15. Passenger and/or cargo fixed wing aircraft movements shall be limited to the
following types of aircraft: Jetstream 41; DHC-8Q400; ATR 42; ATR 72; and
RJ146 (or aircraft of equivalent characteristics in terms of size, weight, carrying
capacity, noise, and other polluting emissions).
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Well Stobart like to talk up plans for the airport. I has a witness when a senior staff member was only too delighted to speak of first the runway resurfacing - involving closing it ( after the permanent biz jet goes to Southend for the duration ).
Pax flights still said to start next year . And they claimed EZY are wanting in due to the same freebie deal they gave them at Southend.
What I did find a bit ity was the idea they were ' speaking to another Irish airline '.
Given if I'm right in thinking Are Lingus still have some involvement - it's clearly not them.
But to insinuate FR . I may have posted before about this but it's no fantasy.
Said manager ( not naming ) was senior ' going by the I'd tag and seemed keen.
Maybe just maybe a limited summer only 2 route Charter for EZY eventually .
But not before Stobart can prove they can fill a tiny prop.
Finally . Rail operation ? Is this an office or a rail link too if so to where ?.
Nearest would be former stub of Waverley route south somewhere be Longtown ?.
Pax flights still said to start next year . And they claimed EZY are wanting in due to the same freebie deal they gave them at Southend.
What I did find a bit ity was the idea they were ' speaking to another Irish airline '.
Given if I'm right in thinking Are Lingus still have some involvement - it's clearly not them.
But to insinuate FR . I may have posted before about this but it's no fantasy.
Said manager ( not naming ) was senior ' going by the I'd tag and seemed keen.
Maybe just maybe a limited summer only 2 route Charter for EZY eventually .
But not before Stobart can prove they can fill a tiny prop.
Finally . Rail operation ? Is this an office or a rail link too if so to where ?.
Nearest would be former stub of Waverley route south somewhere be Longtown ?.
The original plan many moons ago was for a lengthened runway, and brand new, decent sized terminal. Back then there was talk of attracting Ryanair. Given the right price and incentives, I'm sure they might consider it, but it's highly unlikely.
Even if they wanted to, the proposed terminal is far too small to accommodate an A319/737 worth of passengers.
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A little more on proposed ops. Good luck to them I say.
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...lights-in-2018
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...lights-in-2018
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As a reminder, here are the drawings of the new combined passenger terminal and offices for Stobart Rail, from the planning documents dated January 2017: site plan (PDF),
terminal floor plan (PDF), links to all documents.
Access is from the new roundabout on the A689. The passenger terminal appears to be tiny: two "gates" but very little space landside or airside for more than a half full ATR. As someone with a background in construction and architecture, it's disappointing that the terminal building is not going to be much more than cheap steel shed, but I suppose it will have to start small, and hopefully be able to grow into the adjacent offices as space is needed.
terminal floor plan (PDF), links to all documents.
Access is from the new roundabout on the A689. The passenger terminal appears to be tiny: two "gates" but very little space landside or airside for more than a half full ATR. As someone with a background in construction and architecture, it's disappointing that the terminal building is not going to be much more than cheap steel shed, but I suppose it will have to start small, and hopefully be able to grow into the adjacent offices as space is needed.
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What they're building is still on the hopeful side of realistic. The regional flying ship has long since sailed, and we're seeing that all over Europe. If this airport can succeed then the following airports would be small but thriving bases of commercial passenger operations:
Blackpool, Cambridge, Gloucester, Manston, Oxford, Plymouth, Sheffield, Shoreham, Swansea.
They would have flights to Amsterdam, Belfast and / or Dublin, and London or Edinburgh (depending on distance).
That they aren't is a little bit sad :-( But the fact there are so many reasons this can't be the case means Carlisle has a struggle ahead.
Blackpool, Cambridge, Gloucester, Manston, Oxford, Plymouth, Sheffield, Shoreham, Swansea.
They would have flights to Amsterdam, Belfast and / or Dublin, and London or Edinburgh (depending on distance).
That they aren't is a little bit sad :-( But the fact there are so many reasons this can't be the case means Carlisle has a struggle ahead.
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They original told us fixed wing small VFR traffic would contibye.
Especially as there is a business onsite that provided flight training and pleasure flights , year round.
The ' cross runway ' was to remain in use .
The I assume at the point they meet when that work is done that's when closure might be needed.
So this is a change again.
Especially as there is a business onsite that provided flight training and pleasure flights , year round.
The ' cross runway ' was to remain in use .
The I assume at the point they meet when that work is done that's when closure might be needed.
So this is a change again.
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Originally Posted by 01475;9973030"
What they're building is still on the hopeful side of realistic. The regional flying ship has long since sailed, and we're seeing that all over Europe." "Carlisle has a struggle ahead."
Surely, their experience at SEN has at least taught them that simply investing in airport infrastructure is no guarantee of success.