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Old 10th Jun 2019, 21:43
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Will be interesting to see what the loads are like! Hopefully Blue Islands on the way back.
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Old 10th Jun 2019, 22:12
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Sprint ATR operated the GCI-LPL route last Saturday.
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Old 11th Jun 2019, 06:32
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Sprintair only operate 1 AT7 in a passenger configuration which is configured with 66 seat and is registered SP-SPE.

This aircraft first entered with Cityflyer Express as G-BWTL just over 24 years ago and is over 5 years older than the any of the AT7’s in service with Blue Islands
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Old 11th Jun 2019, 08:01
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Says on the note ATR42 but if it is an ATR72 so much the better!
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Old 11th Jun 2019, 08:35
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Originally Posted by GROUNDHOG View Post
Says on the note ATR42 but if it is an ATR72 so much the better!
According to BEís website the inbound aircraft from JER is still being operated by Blue Island ATR42. Double checked and sprintair donít operate any ATR42 aircraft.


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Old 11th Jun 2019, 09:00
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A Stobart Air AT76 is also being used today.
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Old 11th Jun 2019, 09:01
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A ATR72 operated by Stobart Air (EI-FMK) arrived in JER from SEN this morning to operate on behalf of Blue Islands. The aircraft is planned to operate the following flights today:

BE6405 JER 07:30 GCI 07:50
BE6406 GCI 08:10 JER 08:30
BE6411 JER 08:50 GCI 09:10
BE6412 GCI 09:30 JER 09:50

Stobart are also showing as operating the Blue Islands flights listed below tomorrow:

BE6350 JER 07:00 SOU 07:50
BE6351 SOU 08:20 JER 09:10
BE6366 JER 11:00 SOU 11:50
BE6367 SOU 12:20 JER 13:10

Does anyone know if EI-FMK is going to remain on the ground in JER until tomorrow or is it going to return to SEN this afternoon before returning again tomorrow?.





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Old 11th Jun 2019, 09:07
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Sprintair are showing as the operator of the Blue Islands flights listed below between today and Thursday

Tuesday

BE6480 JER 14:40 BRS 15:40
BE6483 BRS 16:30 JER 17:30
BE6483 JER 18:00 GCI 18:20
BE6444 GCI 18:40 JER 19:00

Wednesday

BE6482 NQY 12:10 JER 13:10
BE6541 JER 13:40 GCI 14:00
BE6482 GCI 14:20 JER 14:40
BE6482 JER 15:10 BRS 16:10
BE6483 BRS 17:00 JER 18:00
BE6483 JER 18:30 GCI 18:50
BE6444 GCI 19:10 JER 19:30

Thursday

BE6374 JER 13:40 SOU 14:30
BE6375 SOU 15:00 JER 15:50
BE6423 JER 16:40 GCI 17:00
BE6424 GCI 17:20 JER 17:40
BE6390 JER 18:30 SOU 19:20
BE6391 SOU 19:50 JER 20:40

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Old 11th Jun 2019, 09:56
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Originally Posted by BAladdy View Post
A ATR72 operated by Stobart Air (EI-FMK) arrived in JER from SEN this morning to operate on behalf of Blue Islands. The aircraft is planned to operate the following flights today:

BE6405 JER 07:30 GCI 07:50
BE6406 GCI 08:10 JER 08:30
BE6411 JER 08:50 GCI 09:10
BE6412 GCI 09:30 JER 09:50

Stobart are also showing as operating the Blue Islands flights listed below tomorrow:

BE6350 JER 07:00 SOU 07:50
BE6351 SOU 08:20 JER 09:10
BE6366 JER 11:00 SOU 11:50
BE6367 SOU 12:20 JER 13:10

Does anyone know if EI-FMK is going to remain on the ground in JER until tomorrow or is it going to return to SEN this afternoon before returning again tomorrow?.
She is required back at SEN this morning 1100 for normal ops.
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Old 11th Jun 2019, 10:50
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So NQY / JER should be a 72 then tomorrow?
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Old 11th Jun 2019, 12:58
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If it indeed does stay as spirit it will remain a 72 as they only operate 72s or S340s

mind you, it’s summertime and I would guess things can change


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Old 11th Jun 2019, 22:01
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Originally Posted by Gurnard View Post
Cancellations
Bound to be many disgruntled pax today with a lot of cancelled flights at Jersey. Two a/c appear to be unavailable (ATR42 G-ISLH and ATR72 G-ISLL), all services being operated by ATR72s G-ISLI and -ISLK. Meanwhile ATR42 G-ISLF appears to be doing multiple charters. Is this how the airline plans to make money, cancelling schedules and giving priority to charter work which is probably more lucrative?
They surely made a commercial decision based on loads. Painful yes but have been on many a flight with single digit passenger numbers. Reputation wise it is not wise but I imagine they're on cut throat margins, like most domestic airlines these days (I surmise)
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Old 11th Jun 2019, 22:39
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Originally Posted by SealinkBF View Post
They surely made a commercial decision based on loads. Painful yes but have been on many a flight with single digit passenger numbers. Reputation wise it is not wise but I imagine they're on cut throat margins, like most domestic airlines these days (I surmise)

that post you quoted was from 2017?

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Old 13th Jun 2019, 07:38
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Originally Posted by GROUNDHOG View Post
So NQY / JER should be a 72 then tomorrow?

so just to answer this for everyone else. I noticed when it flew overhead that it was in fact back to a BI 42 on this rotation.


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Old 13th Jun 2019, 23:22
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Originally Posted by cornishsimon View Post



that post you quoted was from 2017?

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Whoops. Came up as a new post
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Old 15th Jun 2019, 15:33
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Would have waved had I known Simon
30 on today's GCI/JER/NQY otherwise loads seem to be early 20's and 11 on one flight. All flights we used bang on time or early.
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You may find the current changes, leasing of aircraft, new routes and new ground handling agents are probably due to the little known fact that Blue Islands are up for sale. Now yes every business has its price but Blue Islands have actually have a company / broker actively looking for buyer for the airline. This comes from a source who works for an airline on the mainland that was actually approached by the broker to see if they would be interested in buying BI. (I have searched the web but cannot find it listed so if anyone knows where to look please advise me) Several recent events have lead to this.They were / are in a franchise partnership with Flybe who as we all know have recently been sold – making this uncertain moving forward. You will notice the last 2 leased aircraft have been painted and delivered in white with Blue Islands engine covers rather than the Flybe colours.Guernsey recently removed their licensing system which means it now has an open skies policy meaning BI no longer have the monopoly on GCI-SOU or GCI-JER routes (Aurigny are now competing on both of these taking a lot the BI customers).The BI owner is not in good health and no-one appears to want to take over the reins with several high profile members of their team recently leaving their positions.To bolster their chances of being sold they have recently started their own ground handling at GCI and started several new routes including Liverpool, Newquay and Southend. This makes them look a bigger growing airline where as in fact they have no assets as all aircraft are leased and all routes are at best just breaking even.I’m guessing they are wet leasing from Stobart and Sprint air so they don’t have to sign long term lease agreements on aircraft as this would deter any potential purchaser.
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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 20:10
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Originally Posted by guern123 View Post
You may find the current changes, leasing of aircraft, new routes and new ground handling agents are probably due to the little known fact that Blue Islands are up for sale. Now yes every business has its price but Blue Islands have actually have a company / broker actively looking for buyer for the airline. This comes from a source who works for an airline on the mainland that was actually approached by the broker to see if they would be interested in buying BI. (I have searched the web but cannot find it listed so if anyone knows where to look please advise me) Several recent events have lead to this.They were / are in a franchise partnership with Flybe who as we all know have recently been sold Ė making this uncertain moving forward. You will notice the last 2 leased aircraft have been painted and delivered in white with Blue Islands engine covers rather than the Flybe colours.Guernsey recently removed their licensing system which means it now has an open skies policy meaning BI no longer have the monopoly on GCI-SOU or GCI-JER routes (Aurigny are now competing on both of these taking a lot the BI customers).The BI owner is not in good health and no-one appears to want to take over the reins with several high profile members of their team recently leaving their positions.To bolster their chances of being sold they have recently started their own ground handling at GCI and started several new routes including Liverpool, Newquay and Southend. This makes them look a bigger growing airline where as in fact they have no assets as all aircraft are leased and all routes are at best just breaking even.Iím guessing they are wet leasing from Stobart and Sprint air so they donít have to sign long term lease agreements on aircraft as this would deter any potential purchaser.

This doesn't surprise me as the UK airline industry is rapidly consolidating and will shortly only be left with BE/VS & Loganiar for the regions (Eastern & BI being wound up/acquired)
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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 20:53
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I cannot see anyone wanting to take this on & sadly fear the worst for all those that have recently been taken on as ground staff at GCI.

I have no sympathy for BI losing passengers to Aurigny, it was only a few years ago they broke Aurigny's monopoly on the JER & ACI routes & Flybe's on the SOU & then gradually pinched all their pax, now the boots on the other foot BI cry foul! Tough luck I say.
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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 22:05
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I cannot see anyone wanting to take this on & sadly fear the worst for all those that have recently been taken on as ground staff at GCI.

I have no sympathy for BI losing passengers to Aurigny, it was only a few years ago they broke Aurigny's monopoly on the JER & ACI routes & Flybe's on the SOU & then gradually pinched all their pax, now the boots on the other foot BI cry foul! Tough luck I say.
Yes, but donít forget that AUR is a States owned, loss making & States subsidized airline. The difference between the two airlines is that Blue Island is a privately owned, loss making & privately subsidized airline ! I , too, have very little confidence in the ability of either airline to turn a profit. The cause of this is that they are both CI based & CI exclusive operations & the CIs are not the cash cows that many people think they are. No CI based airline is ever going to make any money, unless they have a vibrant operation elsewhere.
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