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Old 16th Oct 2019, 23:06
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Originally Posted by LBAflyer22 View Post


BRS has a short runway and typical weather to LBA - only advantage is into wind. Iíve never seen TUI use a 738 on UK-Cape Verde routes.

i suspect this winter the 763 will rotate through Verde.

788 to Verde - was this when Turkey suffered a little decline?
It is well known that BRS has a short runway but as has been mentioned, the 738 has operated BRS-SID-BRS all summer without any tech stops, along with the likes of BRS-HRG-BRS. Last year the 788 was used all summer on BRS-SID-BRS but TUI switched that over to DLM this year. I highly doubt TUI will use a 763 out of regional airports to Cape Verde during winter months, I do think they are planning to fly MAN-SID on the 763 this winter though. I think with BVC, they are pretty much stuck with the 757 if they want to go non-stop both ways; the 738 canít do the inbound to the UK and I donít think the airport can accommodate wide-bodies Ė correct me if Iím wrong.
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Old 17th Oct 2019, 02:09
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Originally Posted by ROC10 View Post

. I think with BVC, they are pretty much stuck with the 757 if they want to go non-stop both ways; the 738 canít do the inbound to the UK and I donít think the airport can accommodate wide-bodies Ė correct me if Iím wrong.
BVC can take the 763 (and did once a week last winter from ARN) but not the 787 (yet).

I believe the 763 will be going into BVC 5x per week this Winter, including 3x from Scandinavia.
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Old 17th Oct 2019, 05:03
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Summer 2021 May-Oct 2021

Just seen a report that TUI will put the above on sale next month on the 7th nov

Should be interesting to what they have planned
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Old 17th Oct 2019, 11:29
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Originally Posted by azz767 View Post
was this done on a long haul 787 with premium or a short haul one with all economy? Great for some pax if it was in a long haul config
Just to add a bit to ROC10's reply, on a few occasions this summer and last summer the outbound BRS-CUN had to make an en-route fuel stop if anticipated route weather conditions were unfavourable. In 2018 the stop tended to be at MAN, and at EMA this year. Sanford seems in reach non-stop all the time.

A 9 series was occasionally substituted for an 8 this summer - presumably because of unavailability - and on the 14 June, for example, a 9 series flew to Sanford non-stop, according to FR24. The scheduled 8 series was stuck in Larnaca at that time. In a report dated 16 July this year Routesonline reported that both BRS-CUN and BRS-SFB will be operated by a 9 series through most of April next year.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...routes-in-w19/
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Old 17th Oct 2019, 20:04
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B787s in S20

The 2x new B787s due before S20 have already been allocated to LGW and MAN, 1x at each.

LGW will then require 6x B787s to be based and 4x will be required at MAN (one of which will operate from DSA 2x days a week). Both bases see the aircraft operate a mix of long and short haul.

1x aircraft will be based at BRS, operating long and short haul.
1x aircraft will be based at BHX, operating only long haul.
1x aircraft will be shared between NCL (2x or 4x days per week) and GLA (4x or 2x days per week), plus BHX (1x day per week) operating only long haul flights.
1x aircraft (usually a B787-9) is then kept as a operational spare (seemed to be MAN based during S19)

Given the TCX situation this may all now change, but this is how the timetable currently stands.
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Old 17th Oct 2019, 21:17
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Originally Posted by Severn View Post
B787s in S20

The 2x new B787s due before S20 have already been allocated to LGW and MAN, 1x at each.

LGW will then require 6x B787s to be based and 4x will be required at MAN (one of which will operate from DSA 2x days a week). Both bases see the aircraft operate a mix of long and short haul.

1x aircraft will be based at BRS, operating long and short haul.
1x aircraft will be based at BHX, operating only long haul.
1x aircraft will be shared between NCL (2x or 4x days per week) and GLA (4x or 2x days per week), plus BHX (1x day per week) operating only long haul flights.
1x aircraft (usually a B787-9) is then kept as a operational spare (seemed to be MAN based during S19)

Given the TCX situation this may all now change, but this is how the timetable currently stands.
Interesting. And assuming the 2x 763 will be back at MAN, both bases will have 6x wide-bodies. Do you know the split of 8s and 9s? Iím guessing either 3 at each (with one of MANís probably being the spare) or 4 at LGW and 2 at MAN.

Im a bit surprised that the GLA/NCL 787 is also due to be operating from BHX once a week Ė seems a tad inefficient to ferry it all the way down there just to go back up again. Did TCX fly long-haul from BHX? If not, Iíd wager that possibly the day at BHX may be switched to GLA to cover lost TCX l/h capacity there. Just my thoughts, probably wonít happen.
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Old 18th Oct 2019, 20:22
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Surely this should be Winter 2020/2021, seeing as their website only goes up to October 2020. Bit early for Summer 2021....
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Old 19th Oct 2019, 10:23
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summer 2021 launch

Originally Posted by Tomexmyt View Post
Surely this should be Winter 2020/2021, seeing as their website only goes up to October 2020. Bit early for Summer 2021....
Seems TUI are having a Summer 2021 & Winter 2021 launch party on Nov 7th

Companies are wanting folk to book ahead - Cunard have just opened 2021 cruise sales and some cabins are sold out already on some voyages.
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Old 19th Oct 2019, 10:25
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Originally Posted by Tomexmyt View Post
Surely this should be Winter 2020/2021, seeing as their website only goes up to October 2020. Bit early for Summer 2021....
Nope, pretty sure they did the same last year. Essentially they Ďprovisionallyí released S20 in Nov 2018 but I believe they made some changes until spring 2019 when they previously wouldíve released the following summerís flights.
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Old 19th Oct 2019, 18:35
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Originally Posted by ROC10 View Post


Nope, pretty sure they did the same last year. Essentially they Ďprovisionallyí released S20 in Nov 2018 but I believe they made some changes until spring 2019 when they previously wouldíve released the following summerís flights.
its usually a carbon copy of existing summer schedules. New schedules appear the following April
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Old 20th Oct 2019, 14:55
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GLA appears to be getting a dedicated 787 with CUN now showing 4x weekly, SFB x2 and weekly to MBJ.

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Old 20th Oct 2019, 15:20
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Sure that isn't just peak school holidays? As that's been the case for a few weeks in July for a couple of years.
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Old 20th Oct 2019, 16:40
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Originally Posted by FlyingScotland View Post
GLA appears to be getting a dedicated 787 with CUN now showing 4x weekly, SFB x2 and weekly to MBJ.
After a quick look at the online timetable it certainly doesnít look like a full time 787 all summer. The days of CUN flights vary significantly week-by-week, with some weeks having 2 flights and others 3 or 4. SFB is only 2 weekly for a few weeks in June/July and MBJ only runs for a similar amount of time.
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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 07:51
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Some new S20 destinations showing for NCL , JTR & JSI. Taking a WED in S20 AM departures showing 4x Based +1 on S19
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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 11:19
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TUI S20 Increases

So far I make the changes to be:

Short-haul a/c

BRS +2
GLA +1 (plus potential full time 787?)
NCL +1
DSA +1
BHX +1 (?)
BOH +0.4 approx
EXT +0.4 approx
LGW/MAN ??
Other bases ??

With regards to the BOH/EXT increases, I have not personally checked the website, but have read from others that each bases will see an additional a/c 3 days per week. Originally the plan seemed to be that BOH would take a LTN a/c from Fri-Sun. Provided this is still the case, perhaps EXT will take one of the extra BRS a/c from Mon-Wed? Another possibility is that one a/c is used exclusively for the BOH/EXT increases, moving between the two bases.

Please correct me or fill in the gaps in my knowledge by addressing the question marked areas above or any other points people have picked up.

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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 12:04
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Originally Posted by ROC10 View Post
Another possibility is that one a/c is used exclusively for the BOH/EXT increases, moving between the two bases
Was a rumour of the BOH aircraft being a Thurs-Sun operation, so the above makes sense if that's correct. It would mean the announcement of more routes obviously, so guess is wait and see on that one.
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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 12:18
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On a side note, G-OOBG looks to have been wfu for the second time this morning. It flew from GLA-DGX and has been replaced at GLA by G-TAWA, alongside G-TAWO.
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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 13:28
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Looking at Summer 2020 the Luton (HQ) operation looks tiny in comparison to recent years. I know this year was scaled back, but next year looks to be a handful of destinations at best, with what looks like just a single based airplane?

Changing times.
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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 13:42
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Originally Posted by pamann View Post
Looking at Summer 2020 the Luton (HQ) operation looks tiny in comparison to recent years. I know this year was scaled back, but next year looks to be a handful of destinations at best, with what looks like just a single based airplane?

Changing times.
It has been a single 757 for this entire summer (with a couple of inward w-patterns), with an additional 738 coming in for only a few weeks in the peak summer.

I reckon thereís a good chance this will be reduced to a single 737 next summer.
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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 15:03
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It looks like GLA and NCL will lose all of their w-patterns from ABZ next summer as these will no longer be needed with the addition of a based a/c at both. These included PMI on Tue and Sat, DLM on Thu and CFU on Fri.

After a quick look at the website, these flights are still showing as outward w-patterns from ABZ. I canít see where they are Ďw-ingí to at the moment but itís possible this hasnít been decided/updated yet. Perhaps some growth at other bases will come from the likes of this as opposed to additional based a/c.
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