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Not sure if it was not just repositioning as it went from EDI to Milan the following day. It seems to get about a bit doing Faro GLA Milan the day after that. I once flew on a DanAir charter from Prestwick to Abbottsinch in the boom years of the oil industry, due to fog and logistic headaches. We spent a night in a Prestwick hotel after being bussed down there as the plane could not land at GLA, then the second night at home before we got a slot from GLA to LSI.
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Pah!
Whats MAX THRUST for???
Whats MAX THRUST for???
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I don't think that's the first time that's happened with 15B and it won't be the last. Most will circle around to make it a left turn on but ATC doesn't help by usually saying 'taxi stand 15B via L or M'. Lighting at night especially when its raining is extremely challenging on that stand too even from the other side. The grass area needs to go.
Also the lead on line is orange. The who came up with that? Maybe yellow was out that day. I have taxied past the line in the dark when wet, it is almost impossible to see. And why didn't they concrete the corner? I feel sorry for the Veuling crew.
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I presume you are aware of the millions invested over the past few years (as much on infrastructure as anything else such as discount airline deals) with a view to a sale and short term gain?
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Of course I am but as an ‘airline’ man my whole career I am programmed to work on the premise that all airports designed to maximise income while spending the least they can get away with on infrastructure.
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and here was me thinking that because there are issues approaching this stand from either direction ATC were offering the aircrew a degree of flexibility to route to the stand in the manner most comfortable for them.
wont bother in future.
wont bother in future.
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My point was it should be mandatory to route via M then right on L when inbound to this stand until the design issues are resolved. Based operators have this as mandatory routing in their own briefing packs to crews and most controllers appear familiar with the issues (by the fact they give the choice of routes) but still dangle the carrot. Giving a crew unfamiliar with the airport the choice will mean of course they take L if after landing on RWY24 as it looks the most logical way when glancing at a chart. Just get an ops vehicle round to marshal if for some reason entry via L is required.
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Booking engines suggest 'wide open' in most dates in peak August, but very early days with very little local advertisement/promotion
Not most user friendly website and presumably just aimed mainly at inbound (though they should be the ones filling the E90 to the gunnels during the festival).
Not most user friendly website and presumably just aimed mainly at inbound (though they should be the ones filling the E90 to the gunnels during the festival).
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My point was it should be mandatory to route via M then right on L when inbound to this stand until the design issues are resolved. Based operators have this as mandatory routing in their own briefing packs to crews and most controllers appear familiar with the issues (by the fact they give the choice of routes) but still dangle the carrot. Giving a crew unfamiliar with the airport the choice will mean of course they take L if after landing on RWY24 as it looks the most logical way when glancing at a chart. Just get an ops vehicle round to marshal if for some reason entry via L is required.
Not ALL based operators mandate approaching the stand from the South. Some crew of operators that supposedly do mandate it will accept an approach from the North rather than take a delay waiting for outbound aircraft routing via Mike. Some crews will accept it in daylight, dry conditions but not when it’s wet or it’s dark. For these reasons ATC will not mandate a routing via Mike. Instead when an aircraft is due in to 15B, ATC will, subject to traffic, try and keep Lima And Mike clear in order to afford the aircrew some flexibility in their routing and then offer that to the crew.
I am concerned that this flexibility is being interpreted as some sort of complicity or liability in any subsequent incident. If you truly believe this then I suggest you raise it In the appropriate manner where it will be properly considered.
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Follow the link then choose Aircraft Ground movement / parking / docking chart.
The zoomed in area shows the oversteer markings from both directions.