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Old 21st Jul 2019, 12:51
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Originally Posted by Rob Royston View Post
Not sure if it was not just repositioning as it went from EDI to Milan the following day. It seems to get about a bit doing Faro GLA Milan the day after that. I once flew on a DanAir charter from Prestwick to Abbottsinch in the boom years of the oil industry, due to fog and logistic headaches. We spent a night in a Prestwick hotel after being bussed down there as the plane could not land at GLA, then the second night at home before we got a slot from GLA to LSI.
Agreed, I reckon from the flight history it probably was just a positioning flight but I may very well be wrong.
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Old 21st Jul 2019, 19:08
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Wasn't it Stormzy after TRNSMT festival? Thought that had been common knowledge
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Old 21st Jul 2019, 21:08
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe View Post
Wasn't it Stormzy after TRNSMT festival? Thought that had been common knowledge
I certainly haven’t heard anytthing of the sort and can’t find any news to suggest it but could be true.
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Old 25th Jul 2019, 09:27
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Ba Cityflyer will be increasing their frequency to London City by up to 5 flights per week in W19/20.

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Old 25th Jul 2019, 09:48
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It's 5 per week!

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Old 25th Jul 2019, 10:46
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Vueling stuck in the grass


Tight turno onto stand
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Old 25th Jul 2019, 13:43
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Pah!

Whats MAX THRUST for???
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Old 26th Jul 2019, 09:12
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I don't think that's the first time that's happened with 15B and it won't be the last. Most will circle around to make it a left turn on but ATC doesn't help by usually saying 'taxi stand 15B via L or M'. Lighting at night especially when its raining is extremely challenging on that stand too even from the other side. The grass area needs to go.
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Old 26th Jul 2019, 23:26
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Also the lead on line is orange. The who came up with that? Maybe yellow was out that day. I have taxied past the line in the dark when wet, it is almost impossible to see. And why didn't they concrete the corner? I feel sorry for the Veuling crew.
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Old 27th Jul 2019, 10:40
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Seems standard EDI. Do the deals to maximise the flights and pax but spend as little as possible on the infrastructure.
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Old 27th Jul 2019, 11:20
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Originally Posted by willy wombat View Post
Seems standard EDI. Do the deals to maximise the flights and pax but spend as little as possible on the infrastructure.
I presume you are aware of the millions invested over the past few years (as much on infrastructure as anything else such as discount airline deals) with a view to a sale and short term gain?
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Old 27th Jul 2019, 13:42
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Of course I am but as an ‘airline’ man my whole career I am programmed to work on the premise that all airports designed to maximise income while spending the least they can get away with on infrastructure.
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Old 27th Jul 2019, 16:57
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Originally Posted by 737aviator View Post
I ATC doesn't help by usually saying 'taxi stand 15B via L or M'..
and here was me thinking that because there are issues approaching this stand from either direction ATC were offering the aircrew a degree of flexibility to route to the stand in the manner most comfortable for them.

wont bother in future.
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Old 27th Jul 2019, 18:37
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Originally Posted by Bagheera View Post


and here was me thinking that because there are issues approaching this stand from either direction ATC were offering the aircrew a degree of flexibility to route to the stand in the manner most comfortable for them.

wont bother in future.
My point was it should be mandatory to route via M then right on L when inbound to this stand until the design issues are resolved. Based operators have this as mandatory routing in their own briefing packs to crews and most controllers appear familiar with the issues (by the fact they give the choice of routes) but still dangle the carrot. Giving a crew unfamiliar with the airport the choice will mean of course they take L if after landing on RWY24 as it looks the most logical way when glancing at a chart. Just get an ops vehicle round to marshal if for some reason entry via L is required.
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Old 27th Jul 2019, 19:53
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Originally Posted by 737aviator View Post
My point was it should be mandatory to route via M then right on L when inbound to this stand
Agreed. But that would effectively mean accepting that the taxiway isn't suitable, and maybe that's something that the airport operator aren't prepared to do.
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Old 27th Jul 2019, 21:07
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Anyone know the Aalborg flights are doing?
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Old 27th Jul 2019, 21:18
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Booking engines suggest 'wide open' in most dates in peak August, but very early days with very little local advertisement/promotion
Not most user friendly website and presumably just aimed mainly at inbound (though they should be the ones filling the E90 to the gunnels during the festival).
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Old 28th Jul 2019, 10:35
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Originally Posted by 737aviator View Post
My point was it should be mandatory to route via M then right on L when inbound to this stand until the design issues are resolved. Based operators have this as mandatory routing in their own briefing packs to crews and most controllers appear familiar with the issues (by the fact they give the choice of routes) but still dangle the carrot. Giving a crew unfamiliar with the airport the choice will mean of course they take L if after landing on RWY24 as it looks the most logical way when glancing at a chart. Just get an ops vehicle round to marshal if for some reason entry via L is required.
and my point is that there are issues with this stand whether approaching it from the North or South, hence why there are oversteer markings from both directions. From the North, not following the oversteer markings risks the main gear departing the paved surface, from the South not following the markings risks wingtip clearance against traffic parked on stand 15A.

Not ALL based operators mandate approaching the stand from the South. Some crew of operators that supposedly do mandate it will accept an approach from the North rather than take a delay waiting for outbound aircraft routing via Mike. Some crews will accept it in daylight, dry conditions but not when itís wet or itís dark. For these reasons ATC will not mandate a routing via Mike. Instead when an aircraft is due in to 15B, ATC will, subject to traffic, try and keep Lima And Mike clear in order to afford the aircrew some flexibility in their routing and then offer that to the crew.

I am concerned that this flexibility is being interpreted as some sort of complicity or liability in any subsequent incident. If you truly believe this then I suggest you raise it In the appropriate manner where it will be properly considered.
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Old 28th Jul 2019, 12:41
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Any chance of some kind soul posting an apron chart showing this stand and associated taxiways?
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Old 28th Jul 2019, 14:26
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Originally Posted by willy wombat View Post
Any chance of some kind soul posting an apron chart showing this stand and associated taxiways?
NATS | AIS - Home

Follow the link then choose Aircraft Ground movement / parking / docking chart.

The zoomed in area shows the oversteer markings from both directions.
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