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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 14:26
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You really must keep up inOban. Wizz have announced eight new routes from Luton recently plus increasing flights on some already established routes, representing a 23 per cent increase. It looks like they see a downturn in demand from a number of regional airports but not in the south east of England.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 17:09
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I didn't say they weren't growing at LTN, I admit I didn't realise by that much. I wonder whether it balances the loss of capacity from other airports. Anyway Wizz don't fly from EDI, and among the published data for Nov, EDI at 8.5% was the highest I noticed. Several hardly grew at all.

I suspect that many may struggle to maintain numbers next year.
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Old 23rd Dec 2017, 08:26
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Still don't get QR at EDI- now down to barely 50% load factor for Nov and biggest reduction in UK compared to other DOH routes. Surely thats not sustainable even with QR publicised issues?
Would love to go on an empty 787, would almost make that more appealing if the travelling public knew!
EY AUH not great either on 5 days per week. Wonder if two operators just too much. Outwith peak summer months even before blamed Qatar issues, QR loads were marginal at best.
Yet other ME routes consistently going from strength to strength - NCL EK DXB up 8%.
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Old 23rd Dec 2017, 08:30
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50% - you're having a laugh ?
Doesn't bode well for the CWL launch....
Interesting times. Seems fuel prices going up too. More likely low cost carriers such as DY will feel the pinch with that even with some more fuel efficient types on their fleet.
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Old 23rd Dec 2017, 08:54
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CWL is completely different to EDI. Different market and a lot more competition. A better comparison for CWL would-be NCL.
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Old 23rd Dec 2017, 13:17
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Still don't get QR at EDI- now down to barely 50% load factor for Nov and biggest reduction in UK compared to other DOH routes. Surely thats not sustainable even with QR publicised issues?
Not quite... EDI was down 11% (56% LF), MAN was down 15% (65% LF), BHX not even reported yet, but not normally a great performer so will almost certainly be in a similar ballpark....

Doesn't make great reading, but QR have bigger issues I think. They need these UK routes to feed their hub at DOH even if they are struggling due to loss of DXB connecting traffic and the rest, consumer confidence etc.
November is traditionally a weaker month though, December will no doubt show some improvement.

I'm more intrigued as to why EY was down 13% on last year. They should be taking advantage of QR's current situ, but it seems EK are steam rollering the Scottish market Eastbound. The strength of Dubai as an O&D destination no doubt helps.
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Old 23rd Dec 2017, 22:01
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QR start flying A350-9 from 1 July 2018 which is an increase in capacity....
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Old 23rd Dec 2017, 23:32
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Emirates has a profile among the general public that the others can only dream of. Lots of Edinburgh PAX seem to travel to GLA rather than use their 'own' ME flights.
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Old 24th Dec 2017, 01:30
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Originally Posted by j636 View Post
QR start flying A350-9 from 1 July 2018 which is an increase in capacity....
Funny timing after the above posts... Fair increase in J capacity. That's quite telling. As we know the load factors posted do not show the whole picture, particularly in terms of the full service airlines and this would appear to be a good example. QR could be filling J and bulking out the B788 with cargo on a regular basis, CAA stats will not tell you that...
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Old 24th Dec 2017, 09:15
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Good point GoEDI......I have flown the Doha service 4 times this year and J class has been full each way each time. I do know they run a lot of offers though....
Personally love the service and find Doha HIA a great airport to transfer to AusPac or Asia.
Let’s hope the increase sticks.....
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Old 24th Dec 2017, 11:56
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I hear the same. People I know who use the QR service regularly often find that business class is fully booked so the upgrade to A350 makes sense from that perspective.
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Old 24th Dec 2017, 18:53
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Those wingtips and racoon nose will be a sight.
The booking engine still seems to show a mix of 787 and A359 and some dates blocked off, so maybe not finalised.
But I do still wonder with the vast majority of capacity Y space, there are not many routes can rely purely on standard underfloor cargo and if true, offer filled J seats.
Maybe CWL has required a reshuffle of aircraft, or maybe a pending A380 ��
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Old 26th Dec 2017, 12:33
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Given my username, I’m over the moon with this news. Wonderful aircraft and a step above the 787 to travel on so really looking forward to seeing the raccoon regularly at EDI.

Agree with others; the extra J and cargo capacity are probably the reason for this.
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Old 26th Dec 2017, 13:55
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Wednesday’s QR to Doha was delayed by 41 hours. Passengers are threatening legal action.
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Old 27th Dec 2017, 08:12
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Wouldn't you, if you were one of them? nearly 2 full days inconvenience, and a lot of people value their time
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Old 27th Dec 2017, 13:42
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“Threatening legal action “

LMAO
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Old 27th Dec 2017, 14:59
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https://www.scotsman.com/news/transp...elay-1-4645847
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Old 27th Dec 2017, 15:04
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The funniest thing about that link is right at the end where there's a link to EDI possibly getting a second service (albeit from 2014). Could do with sorting the first one out beforehand methinks.
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Old 27th Dec 2017, 15:32
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1 such delay in over 3 years of service and you claim they need to sort themselves out?

What's your agenda then?
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Old 27th Dec 2017, 16:01
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I was delayed 18 hours by Qatar in October, instead of being in Singapore, I spent a day in Doha. They had to pay me compensation of €1,200 Euros (after initially refusing to pay anything), so this is not an isolated incident.
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