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APD is a red herring when most other T/A carriers have been growing ex UK. Low cost T/A only appears to only be working from Capital Cities in Europe to main (ish) airports in the US where there is established operation. Premiair Air, Level and Norwegian appear to be all focusing on these places.
Saying that EDI should have delivered better results with or without APD.
Saying that EDI should have delivered better results with or without APD.
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I think that the rise in oil prices, and slow growth in the UK economy (never mind the risk of a B*tsh*t Brexit) will result in quite slow growth in the UK airline market generally -as indeed could be seeyat many airports this year, although the fine summer depressed last-minute bookings also.
As far as Norwegian, BCN will be served daily next summer by both FR and Vueling. TFS is served by four airlines/holiday companies, and if there is a need for more capacity, then I'm sure it will be provided.
The TATL flights had high = profitable fares for only a few weeks in high season. I'm whether WOW/Kevlavik is turning into a loco equivalent of EK/Dubai. A shortish flight, a break of journey, and onward flights to almost anywhere in North America.
I doubt the loss will reduce the number of TA passengers at EDI.
As far as Norwegian, BCN will be served daily next summer by both FR and Vueling. TFS is served by four airlines/holiday companies, and if there is a need for more capacity, then I'm sure it will be provided.
The TATL flights had high = profitable fares for only a few weeks in high season. I'm whether WOW/Kevlavik is turning into a loco equivalent of EK/Dubai. A shortish flight, a break of journey, and onward flights to almost anywhere in North America.
I doubt the loss will reduce the number of TA passengers at EDI.
Thanks for the heads up on The additional BCN flights.
Stunned that EK have been advertising there new EDI “daily” flights only to immediately cut to 5 days per week. Is it permanent or just for W18? Does not add up....
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The Norwegian TFS flights were at really good humane hours for families unlike the referenced “holiday” companies. Sorry there is no way I want to fly back with my family and arrive between 1 and 3 am!! Guess I will have to fly from somewhere else now......
Thanks for the heads up on The additional BCN flights.
Stunned that EK have been advertising there new EDI “daily” flights only to immediately cut to 5 days per week. Is it permanent or just for W18? Does not add up....
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The Norwegian TFS flights were at really good humane hours for families unlike the referenced “holiday” companies. Sorry there is no way I want to fly back with my family and arrive between 1 and 3 am!! Guess I will have to fly from somewhere else now......
Thanks for the heads up on The additional BCN flights.
Stunned that EK have been advertising there new EDI “daily” flights only to immediately cut to 5 days per week. Is it permanent or just for W18? Does not add up....
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Thanks for the information, does this mean that there is a chance of it going back to daily in the future?
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Its not good to see Norwegian go and Emirates decrease before they have even started but I guess Norwegian was always going to happen anyway. On the other hand it seems positive talks are ongoing with some airlines and we may see some new routes and frequency increases soon to cover the loss.
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Or ones with cheap fares/triple mileage promotions?
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Perhaps EK know this route will have a big chunk of outbound one off holiday makers and honeymooners who will care not a jot.
I would imagine it will veer back daily at some point in the future.
If one GLA services goes A380 maybe that frees up 777 pilots Although if there is such a crisis in pilots - why all the expansion elsewhere?
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APD is a red herring when most other T/A carriers have been growing ex UK. Low cost T/A only appears to only be working from Capital Cities in Europe to main (ish) airports in the US where there is established operation. Premiair Air, Level and Norwegian appear to be all focusing on these places.
Saying that EDI should have delivered better results with or without APD.
Saying that EDI should have delivered better results with or without APD.
So for a family of 4 (kids above 16) that’s £312 in APD alone.
6 x 150 average load = 900 x 52 weeks a year 22,500 x £78 = £1,755,000 not so a red herring more a deal breaker and something the SNP promised to half then abolish, but they need the Greens to sustain their minority administration, goodbye jobs in Scotland, but no matter keep supporting PIK
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Good news as routes online confirm Emirates will go back to Daily after the runway works in Dubai.
1st October to 27th of October- 1x daily
28th October to 3rd of December- 5x weekly
4th December to 14th of January- 1x daily
15th January to 27th of March- 5x weekly
28th March to 15th of April- 1x daily
16th April to 30th May- 5x weekly (Dubai runway works)
eff31May19 1x daily
1st October to 27th of October- 1x daily
28th October to 3rd of December- 5x weekly
4th December to 14th of January- 1x daily
15th January to 27th of March- 5x weekly
28th March to 15th of April- 1x daily
16th April to 30th May- 5x weekly (Dubai runway works)
eff31May19 1x daily
APD alone accounts for £78.00 per economy passenger and remember that’s only applied on the outbound add other airport charges and its easy to see that numbers don’t add up compared with ex Ireland at €3 a flight.
So for a family of 4 (kids above 16) that’s £312 in APD alone.
6 x 150 average load = 900 x 52 weeks a year 22,500 x £78 = £1,755,000 not so a red herring more a deal breaker
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As mentioned several times by others earlier in this thread, Norwegian were expecting APD to be halved, then abolished.
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cant be using this excuse for the BCN and TFS routes, what’s the word on them? Are they gone?
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There is always the benefit of Norwegian leaving, being that it will open up the routes for other carriers like JetBlue and Primera to operate to primary airports with better service and aircraft.
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If Norwegian struggled would be surprised to see Primera, though they do seem a little off the wall. The loss of Norwegian I cant see being inextricably linked to a sudden flurry of other mainline carriers.
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Thanks inOban, very disappointing and don’t get the logic as both away based aircraft routes. Those who have access may have load factor details that may show a reason why.
(IMO feels like they are just sticking 2 fingers up to Scotland, EDI et al. Surprised they are keeping any routes ....IMO)
(IMO feels like they are just sticking 2 fingers up to Scotland, EDI et al. Surprised they are keeping any routes ....IMO)