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ryanair have now loaded s19, not sure if it's complete.
So far i've noticed 1. Carcassonne ends next month and doesn't come back. 2. Hahn ends at the end of w18. 3. Berlin, which transfers from glasgow at the start of w18 seems to disappear at the end of the winter. 4. Seville only operates this winter.
Some other routes which started in w17 are suspended this winter but restart for s19.
I'm sure others will find other changes.
So far i've noticed 1. Carcassonne ends next month and doesn't come back. 2. Hahn ends at the end of w18. 3. Berlin, which transfers from glasgow at the start of w18 seems to disappear at the end of the winter. 4. Seville only operates this winter.
Some other routes which started in w17 are suspended this winter but restart for s19.
I'm sure others will find other changes.
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I hope Norwegian add their America flights soon as It would be bad if they are dropped for S19 its been a while since they uploaded the Irish schedule? Anyone know whats happening?
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No EDI based stuff on sale yet, that includes OSL. I'm sure it will be on sale in the next month or so as it was around Oct it was released last year. What they have up their sleeve remains to be seen... I do believe there will be changes as they can't keep SWF at daily if PVD re-starts using 1 based aircraft, unless something is away based.
BCN/TFS not on sale yet either.
BCN/TFS not on sale yet either.
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Interesting. Maybe not such the goldmine we're led to believe. No doubt theories (as with Etihad), that being singled out was nothing to do with the route but all to do with a precarious airline.
Could still be to play however until comfirmed if this is just speculative rumour. A lot of competition on some of those routes and some complicated crewing. They do have a good product.
Think some did predict the slightly weird TA routes wouldnt last long term. The backpackers who came to bolster these routes will no doubt drift back to the uber cheap KL/BA/DY fares ex London.
One wonders, if true, what component of the TA routes failed- unfilled aircraft with low yielding pax or other. Its odd that the original marketing and advertising was short lived. The small narrowbody regional transatlantic experiment doesnt seem to be doing anyone any favours. Maybe Primera will swoop in with their reliable efforts (!) and DY can continue some limited away based flying.
Could still be to play however until comfirmed if this is just speculative rumour. A lot of competition on some of those routes and some complicated crewing. They do have a good product.
Think some did predict the slightly weird TA routes wouldnt last long term. The backpackers who came to bolster these routes will no doubt drift back to the uber cheap KL/BA/DY fares ex London.
One wonders, if true, what component of the TA routes failed- unfilled aircraft with low yielding pax or other. Its odd that the original marketing and advertising was short lived. The small narrowbody regional transatlantic experiment doesnt seem to be doing anyone any favours. Maybe Primera will swoop in with their reliable efforts (!) and DY can continue some limited away based flying.
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agree the product and service is good for a LLC and so were the slots times unlike others who like to fly through the night.
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Interesting. Maybe not such the goldmine we're led to believe. No doubt theories (as with Etihad), that being singled out was nothing to do with the route but all to do with a precarious airline.
Could still be to play however until comfirmed if this is just speculative rumour. A lot of competition on some of those routes and some complicated crewing. They do have a good product.
Think some did predict the slightly weird TA routes wouldnt last long term. The backpackers who came to bolster these routes will no doubt drift back to the uber cheap KL/BA/DY fares ex London.
One wonders, if true, what component of the TA routes failed- unfilled aircraft with low yielding pax or other. Its odd that the original marketing and advertising was short lived. The small narrowbody regional transatlantic experiment doesnt seem to be doing anyone any favours. Maybe Primera will swoop in with their reliable efforts (!) and DY can continue some limited away based flying.
Could still be to play however until comfirmed if this is just speculative rumour. A lot of competition on some of those routes and some complicated crewing. They do have a good product.
Think some did predict the slightly weird TA routes wouldnt last long term. The backpackers who came to bolster these routes will no doubt drift back to the uber cheap KL/BA/DY fares ex London.
One wonders, if true, what component of the TA routes failed- unfilled aircraft with low yielding pax or other. Its odd that the original marketing and advertising was short lived. The small narrowbody regional transatlantic experiment doesnt seem to be doing anyone any favours. Maybe Primera will swoop in with their reliable efforts (!) and DY can continue some limited away based flying.
Guess that is where they will move the EDI aircraft and crew too. 😐
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Between APD and throwing public money at the Prestwick white elephant, the SNP are making a dog's dinners of aviation in Scotland, and also without a centralised hub like the Irish do with Dublin, Scotland will always be vulnerable to losing service like this, anyway. Very disappointing, IMO.
DUB is a hub because it has a based former government owned flag carrier and political clout, so not something Scotland’s fragmented approach has. Ironically competition between GLA/EDI/PIK means the public wins on price but loses the chance to have world class facilities. DUB T2 is quite the advert for Ireland whereas GLA and EDI are just there to build shareholder value and not one penny more should be spent that doesn’t serve that. And I say that as a fan of free markets.....
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Between APD and throwing public money at the Prestwick white elephant, the SNP are making a dog's dinners of aviation in Scotland, and also without a centralised hub like the Irish do with Dublin, Scotland will always be vulnerable to losing service like this, anyway. Very disappointing, IMO.
I do agree the SNP could be better with aviation, but this one is not solely down to them, it was a combined effort...or lack thereof.
As we see though, other airliners don't appear to have an issue with APD in Scotland. Ryanair scrapped some GLA routes, mumbling about APD, but have now announced they are going to bring them back, so presumably they were making more money than they let on. Jet2.com have nothing bad to say about APD, they have grown and continue to grow in spite of the rates and have shown no real sign of supporting a cut or withdrawal, they are more or less neutral on it. If APD is such an issue then no one appears to have told the airlines who have all flocked to Scotland in recent years. Norwegian, in all honesty, have a few internal issues that need attention.
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More airlines have expanded or launched at EDI in recent years than have retreated.
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I think that the rise in oil prices, and slow growth in the UK economy (never mind the risk of a B*tsh*t Brexit) will result in quite slow growth in the UK airline market generally -as indeed could be seeyat many airports this year, although the fine summer depressed last-minute bookings also.
As far as Norwegian, BCN will be served daily next summer by both FR and Vueling. TFS is served by four airlines/holiday companies, and if there is a need for more capacity, then I'm sure it will be provided.
The TATL flights had high = profitable fares for only a few weeks in high season. I'm wondering whether WOW/Kevlavik is turning into a loco equivalent of EK/Dubai. A shortish flight, a break of journey, and onward flights to almost anywhere in North America.
I doubt the loss will reduce the number of TA passengers at EDI.
As far as Norwegian, BCN will be served daily next summer by both FR and Vueling. TFS is served by four airlines/holiday companies, and if there is a need for more capacity, then I'm sure it will be provided.
The TATL flights had high = profitable fares for only a few weeks in high season. I'm wondering whether WOW/Kevlavik is turning into a loco equivalent of EK/Dubai. A shortish flight, a break of journey, and onward flights to almost anywhere in North America.
I doubt the loss will reduce the number of TA passengers at EDI.
Last edited by inOban; 22nd Sep 2018 at 17:02.