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Old 2nd Apr 2018, 18:10
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whats this 'elsewhere' of EY getting the can? I was led to believe it was a full, year round, money spinner?
If true, wonder if EY scrapping anything else? Maybe all the inbound chinese tourists lapping up Hainan instead...
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Old 2nd Apr 2018, 22:21
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Who said that it was a ''money spinner''?

From reading previous posts I'm under the impression that load factors haven't been that great especially as they are up against Qatar.

I don't think Hainan coming to the scene will have to much impact on the current EY and QR flights especially as there going to be linked with Dublin.

But in saying that there is a discussion on A.net suggesting that EY will cease flying to EDI from 01 November 2018, Etihad are making several cutbacks in their network and with the load factors and yields being as they are and with direct competition from QR I guess one had to call it a day considering that there is probably more than enough competition in Scotland with QR at EDI and EK at GLA.

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Old 3rd Apr 2018, 06:38
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Make up your mind! So you DONT need a passport then?
I tried not showing it getting on a BA flight and was told “no passport no travel”!
Of course at DUB they check IDs, I am told a driving licence may suffice if British or Irish but of course I have never needed to try as a passport works best. If they suspect you are non UK/ROI national and only have a driving licence and not an EU ID, they can refuse entry.
I think.
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Old 3rd Apr 2018, 13:12
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on the news of a possible EY withdrawal it seems the orginal big bad EK is now flavour of the month and now being welcomed with open arms at EDI. Not unheard of but would be a curious shift, given they get all the East coast pax they need currently and for high rollers have limousine transfer west. The EK infrastructure /Lounge etc would be expensive to replicate/duplicate.
If EK are apparently more successful than QR and EY, perhaps they would wipe out both and take TK with them.
Interesting times. Inbound/outbound- Scotland markey is onviously not limitless.
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Old 3rd Apr 2018, 13:56
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Price elastic yes - limitless, no. Opens the door for EK 380 at GLA and/or three a day. EDI made a major tactical error (IMHO) not backing one of the ME3 and getting that carrier up to twice daily asap. If they try to encourage EK to EDI it will be a repeat of same error - much better to throw their weight behind QR and try to get them up to twice daily (the reason I say this is that by getting the frequency up you massively improve connections at the hub).
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Old 3rd Apr 2018, 14:39
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I personally think they will try and do just that.

Many people assumed (maybe not on here) that QR would be done when the blockade came in, but EY, with that market still totally open to them, are the ones bowing out. I imagine QR may go to 10 a week on the back of this news, maybe slotting in where the Chinese carrier doesn't. To go straight to twice daily when EY themselves were only 5 weekly is perhaps too much too soon.
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Old 3rd Apr 2018, 15:51
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Originally Posted by willy wombat View Post
EDI made a major tactical error (IMHO) not backing one of the ME3 and getting that carrier up to twice daily asap. .
I really don't think that's how the industry works. It's not up to the airports to dictate frequency, it's up to the airlines. And to actively back one while discouraging another is not only bad practice, but also potentially illegal.

Lets not forget Qatar had only just launched the summer before Etihad announced plans - Qatar were nowhere near the stage of wanting to go double daily. Etihad new that, and tried to get in early and spoil the party. EDI certainly isnt going to turn them away, instead they negotiated with them, and offered them the same sort of deal they would offer any new airline.

The only thing we are going to see now that Etihad is leaving is for Qatar to receive better yields. It should also help justify the A350, which may well stay around a bit longer now. I doubt they will be looking to go twice daily.

There's a possibility Emirates may decide to step in. They might try and get part of the market before Qatar do get too established, but I think that's unlikely. They seem happy enough driving passengers through to Glasgow or Newcastle.
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Old 3rd Apr 2018, 19:25
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New routes to Bodrum & Corfu on sale for Summer 2019 with Jet2.
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Old 4th Apr 2018, 00:42
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PVD axed for the winter, back S19
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Old 4th Apr 2018, 07:52
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The withdrawal of EY has reached the Scotsman ('we have learned'). Of course maybe they read PPRuNe....
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Old 4th Apr 2018, 10:56
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Jet2

Where did you find the news about the 2 new Jet2 routes?
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Old 4th Apr 2018, 11:12
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EY

Flights are still bookable with EY from ED--AUH right through the winter, up to and including March, haven't checked any further.

I'd be fairly annoyed if I booked for Jan or Feb to be then re-routed via DUB which is the option they offer on days they don't operate if the route is indeed pulled.
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Old 4th Apr 2018, 15:51
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Originally Posted by Plane mad 134 View Post
Where did you find the news about the 2 new Jet2 routes?
They're in the drop-down list of destinations on their website.

I think they may be reducing the frequency on some other routes to make the space. Certainly Budapest seems to be twice weekly all summer - fair enough now FR operate as well.

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Old 4th Apr 2018, 17:53
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Now reported on BBC News - EY scrapped due to 'poor uptake' whatever that means. Missed date of last flight. No winter suspension as previously suggested.
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Old 4th Apr 2018, 18:15
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe View Post
Now reported on BBC News - EY scrapped due to 'poor uptake' whatever that means. Missed date of last flight. No winter suspension as previously suggested.
Flights end from October - I guess that will be the end of the Summer timetable season.

Here's the BBC article:
Daily Abu Dhabi flights from Edinburgh Airport to be cancelled - BBC News

A daily air service from Edinburgh to Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates is set to be cancelled.
Etihad Airways is to end the flights from October, three years after launching.
Edinburgh had been Etihad's first Scottish destination but it is understood a lack of take-up is to blame for the service ending.
The route operates with an Airbus A330-200 aircraft, with a total of 22 seats in business class and 240 in economy.
An Etihad Airways spokesman, said: "Etihad Airways continues to review its network and make a select number of adjustments which will be announced at the appropriate time, taking into account the needs of our staff, partners, and customers.
"In recent weeks the airline has increased its European schedule introducing an additional daily flight from Rome to Abu Dhabi and launching services from Baku."
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Old 4th Apr 2018, 20:05
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Was Etihad at Edinburgh first or Qatar
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Old 4th Apr 2018, 20:12
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Originally Posted by HH6702 View Post
Was Etihad at Edinburgh first or Qatar
Qatar Airways began DOH-EDI in May 2014, whereas Etihad Airways commenced AUH-EDI in June 2015.
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Old 4th Apr 2018, 20:58
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It seems flights on the etihad are still available to book on skyscanner until march time
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Old 4th Apr 2018, 23:42
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EY are never the quickest at updating their schedules.
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Old 5th Apr 2018, 13:28
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Tui: Dalaman goes twice weekly and Antalya is added once weekly. I thought that S18 was as much as could be delivered by one based a/c, but I haven't had time to discover whether the additional services are using a 3rd party carrier, or some kind of W pattern.
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