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Originally Posted by Skipness One Echo
Don't DfT rules insist all passengers routing DUB-EDI-xyz re-clear security at EDI? This is why double drops no longer work in the UK market. DfT doesn't recognise any non UK security as to be a high enough standard, and to be fair, having come through some sleepier European airports in recent years, I can see why.
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Or maybe it's nowt to do with APD and there isn't sufficient demand. DUB and EDI aren't the same markets, differentiated just by APD.
A number of SWF DUB rotations are already full for next month, the loads on SNN & BFS are good, BFS benefits from reduced APD under devolved powers.
It’s hallirious that the greens oppose the reduction in APD so more people fly to LHR before heading off over the pond, good joined up thinking that.
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The problem isn’t just DfT rules but also Immigration & Customs for the CTA.
1) all pax must clear Immigration at first point of arrival into the CTA ie EDI will clear for Eire & DUB would clear for U.K. this is where the problem arises is that for Immigration dirty passengers will be mixed with clean passengers. So a pax who is Transitting without Visa through Dublin will then be on a DUB - EDI CTA which increases the chances of undocumented arrivals. In practice a CHN national with a schengen visa could fly from Paris to DUB to join the DUB-EDI-PEK flight without see the Garda as long as they Transit airside. They then get off the flight in Edinburgh and claim Asylum. This is why these flights require permission from the Director General of Border Force
2) although CTA is free movement of people it’s still a Customs area for Prohibited & Restricted goods. Again the risks are higher for these flights.
3) nobody knows what will happen regards the U.K. & EU Border that’s being created by Brexit
4) Edinburgh had also asked for the passengers to enter the common departure lounge whilst being processed to DfT standards (they want them buying Duty Free) again this is a problem with an exit to the U.K. that’s not controlled.
Very complicated hence a great deal of negotiations. Also aren’t Hainan in finincial trouble??
1) all pax must clear Immigration at first point of arrival into the CTA ie EDI will clear for Eire & DUB would clear for U.K. this is where the problem arises is that for Immigration dirty passengers will be mixed with clean passengers. So a pax who is Transitting without Visa through Dublin will then be on a DUB - EDI CTA which increases the chances of undocumented arrivals. In practice a CHN national with a schengen visa could fly from Paris to DUB to join the DUB-EDI-PEK flight without see the Garda as long as they Transit airside. They then get off the flight in Edinburgh and claim Asylum. This is why these flights require permission from the Director General of Border Force
2) although CTA is free movement of people it’s still a Customs area for Prohibited & Restricted goods. Again the risks are higher for these flights.
3) nobody knows what will happen regards the U.K. & EU Border that’s being created by Brexit
4) Edinburgh had also asked for the passengers to enter the common departure lounge whilst being processed to DfT standards (they want them buying Duty Free) again this is a problem with an exit to the U.K. that’s not controlled.
Very complicated hence a great deal of negotiations. Also aren’t Hainan in finincial trouble??
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Originally Posted by GLAEDI
Very complicated hence a great deal of negotiations. Also aren’t Hainan in finincial trouble??
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Hainan arn't in trouble... it’s their parent group HNA that are in trouble
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Globes English - Israir to launch Tel Aviv - Scotland, Norway routes
Is this a rehash of last years launch that never came to anything?
Is this a rehash of last years launch that never came to anything?
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Originally Posted by The96er
Which is the same thing ! - If the parent company fails, so do its subsidiaries unless purchased by someone else.
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Originally Posted by inOban
Having been in the local media since last night, the Beijing flights are now announced on the EDI website.
That is one of the rumours from up this thread ticked off at least.
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Good news for Scotland in general. You've got to laugh at the TV coverage on the BBC where the Scottish Tourism officials keep banging on about how this means Chinese visitors won't have to travel via London (and only London). Don't they realise that they also travel via Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Qatar, Amsterdam, Frankfurt etc etc
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Originally Posted by willy wombat
Good news for Scotland in general. You've got to laugh at the TV coverage on the BBC where the Scottish Tourism officials keep banging on about how this means Chinese visitors won't have to travel via London (and only London). Don't they realise that they also travel via Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Qatar, Amsterdam, Frankfurt etc etc
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Unless those Chinese tourists have been to the UK before and wish to visit other areas of the country on their return visit without having to transit or visit London, these Chinese tourists tend to be wealthy and are venturing further afield, there are some more on these forums who assume that the Chinese only ever make the one visit to our shores and that means London is involved which I can assure you is not always the case.
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Indeed but the point I was making is that you already can visit Scotland from China without going to London. I know from personal experience that Dubai attracts large numbers of Chinese tourists who are, by and large, en-route to or from Europe.
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe
Id be surprised if most inbound Chinese tourists came to Scotland and only Scotland... without backtracking either way to visit London.
