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Old 2nd Dec 2018, 02:45
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Originally Posted by Hermite View Post
Thanks for the info. I wonder what was wrong with the originals - I don't suppose rudders and horizontal stabalisers are replaced that often.
If either have bearings,then perhaps bearings replaced.
Just my thoughts. Perhaps an engineer can confirm if there is bearings in either.
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Old 15th Dec 2018, 10:37
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Guernsey government agreed (yesterday 14Dec) to becoming guarantor for 46M loan for Aurigny to purchase 3new ATR 600 fitted with “ClearVision” fog busting” IR HUD to replace current ATR. First delivery August next year other 2 before next Xmas. Studies showed purchase to be more cost effective than lease.

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Old 15th Dec 2018, 16:33
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Studies showed purchase to be more cost effective than lease.
And yet almost every major carrier consider leasing to be the more cost effective option .....
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Old 15th Dec 2018, 17:33
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And yet almost every major carrier consider leasing to be the more cost effective option .....
The States of Guernsey often have different ideas.
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Old 15th Dec 2018, 17:43
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I understand it had a lot to do with the terms ATR were prepared to offer for Aurigny to be the lead customer for their new technology - possibly because the islands provide an ideal place and conditions to show off its benefits!
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The independant consultants engaged to study the options available estimated leasing cost of an ATR600 to be 130,000 a month per aircraft. You do the sums!

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Old 15th Dec 2018, 18:15
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Originally Posted by snchater View Post


And yet almost every major carrier consider leasing to be the more cost effective option .....
Are you sure that this is true? Looking at G-INFO, most seem to have a mix of leased and owned. I can understand leasing for a short term requirement, but for an a/c required in the long term, how can paying the leasor who has to buy the a/c and also make a profit be cheaper than buying the a/c themselves and not contributing to a leasor's profits?
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Old 15th Dec 2018, 18:44
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I forgot to take into account that COBO and VZON have part exchange value of approx $16 million making the “buy” deal even better for Aurigny.

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Old 28th Dec 2018, 18:26
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I note that while GNSEY was down earlier this week awaiting part for repair, two Titan Airbus A320 GPOWK and GPOWM were leased to operate the Gatwick route. Does anyone know what PAX number restrictions are applied to allow them to operate in and out of GCI?
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 11:26
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GCI-JER & GCI-SOU

Aurigny have announced two additional routes;
GCI - SOU
GCI - JER
Both with their ATR42, twice daily, from May.

I guess Flybe / Blue Islands won't be too happy.
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 11:29
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Originally Posted by five zero by ortac View Post
Aurigny have announced two additional routes;
GCI - SOU
GCI - JER
Both with their ATR42, twice daily, from May.

I guess Flybe / Blue Islands won't be too happy.
So these routes have already proved that they cannot sustain 2 operators. How on earth do Aurigny think that by adding more flights which will have to be at a reduced fair to gain customers will help them to break even,

Stop ordering new technology and new aircraft before that technology is approved might be a good place to start.
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 15:59
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And another new route to be announced shortly too I hear,
I wonder if it will be domestic or European?
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 17:11
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Standby for even greater operational losses; & an opportunity for the States to bail them out for an even more substantial sum ! It just highlights the absurdity of it all as, while AUR are being bailed out, the States will also be subsidizing their main competitors to the tune of 825,000 to provide a Heathrow service which takes business away from their “ in house” airline ! You really could not make it up ! Just heard the Managing Director of AUR saying that the fares for these routes “will be attractive” - just wait - they may achieve losses even greater than I am expecting.
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 21:25
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Fascinating
History repeating itself on SOU and JER; SOU always used to have 2 operators and what happened to the BI/GR joint inter-island venture.
cant believe there is the demand
Shame Waves went bust
Inter island needs a higher frequency of small plane; Dornier better suited?
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Old 27th Feb 2019, 13:21
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Press releases state that the “spare” ATR 42 GHUET is to be used.
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Old 5th Apr 2019, 08:03
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Aurigny have been retiming the Alderney flights for a few days now. Anyone know why?
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Old 5th Apr 2019, 12:37
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Aurigny have been retiming the Alderney

Shortage of ATC I believe, especially around Midday
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Old 5th Apr 2019, 13:32
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Two aircraft on maintenance, one aircraft is tech awaiting parts, so only one serviceable aircraft. Hence the schedule going out the window.
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Old 8th Apr 2019, 19:20
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G-ETAC is back in service today but has a white rudder. Has this been replaced, and if so, what was wrong with the old one. I seem to recall that G-OAUR also appeared with a white rudder a few months ago. Same problem on both a/c?
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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 11:22
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I'm hearing whispers that STN is to be dropped from the schedule, if this is true it seems that maybe the new Flybe & Blue Islands routes to LHR & SEN have eaten away at the passenger loads..
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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 12:41
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I'm hearing whispers that STN is to be dropped from the schedule, if this is true it seems that maybe the new Flybe & Blue Islands routes to LHR & SEN have eaten away at the passenger loads..
It's been on the cards for a while, when I came back through Stansted last August the flight was late and the captain apologised and said that they had been having issues with the handling agents and that the route had been looked at carefully within the airline as it was causing Aurigny a headache but at that time it would continue for now due to lack of alternatives... maybe that and the other routes opening mean Aurigny are going to review their decision.

Whilst not necessarily unusual, I have noticed the ATR 42 seems to have done the Stansted run before it does the evening Jersey and Southampton runs a few times recently, suggesting that the loads are at best in the mid
​​​​​​40s each way

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