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PS This is the Aurigny thread, not Guernsey Airport. Further discussion of this topic should be continued there.
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AUR, as an airline, is not profitable & is bailed out by the Guernsey taxpayer every year. With this in mind, I should think that the E195 is not profitable either. Gatwick - Guernsey is the only regular route that it operates & is their most frequent & important route . So, I would guess from this fact that it is unprofitable. AUR only have 1 E195 because they do not have any other routes which would justify the use of another one, & there is not the demand on the Gatwick route that would justify a second a/c.
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No need for another jet.
The E195 operates 4 rotations daily to Gatwick and back. It is supplemented by up to 3 ATR72 a day on the route. This gives the required number of seats per day on the route. The Gatwick route makes a profit for Aurigny unlike most of its others to Stansted, East Midlands, Bristol and Manchester from GCI, which are all marginal with pax numbers only justifying an ATR 72. There is no requirement for an additional jet in the fleet as its load factor would be well under 50% most of the time.
PS Not true that Gatwick is only regular route: Man is X2 daily, others are at X1 daily except at very off peak times.
PS Not true that Gatwick is only regular route: Man is X2 daily, others are at X1 daily except at very off peak times.
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It would not be politically possible for the Guernsey government to give the "lifeline" London hub airport route to Gatwick to FlyBE who have proved in the past they are prepared to sell the slots to the highest bidder and leave Guernsey reliant for its international banking visitors to fly from Stansted or other "inferior" airports.
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I was just saying that, not suggesting thats what Guernsey should do. Anyway as for you saying about the political impact of Flybe operating the service, Aurigny already has done it, before its E195 arrived, it hired in a Flybe E195 to provide cover, so why not instead of buying a brand new one and paying the lease, as well as having to train crew etc, why didn't they do a wet lease with Flybe, saving themselves money? It would have also been beneficial to Flybe who have an overcapacity in E195s both with crew and airframes, a wet lease would have given certainty to the people of Guernsey and would have allowed Flybe to make use of an aircraft that would otherwise be sitting in storage at Exeter or Newquay.
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Being a direct customer Aurigny received a lot of support from Embraer.
If I recall correctly an Embraer employee was based in Guernsey for a number of months.
This would not have happened if they had leased a Flybe aircraft.
If I recall correctly an Embraer employee was based in Guernsey for a number of months.
This would not have happened if they had leased a Flybe aircraft.
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In any event is it not the plan for Flybe to phase out their E195s completely. The only sure way to guarantee operations is to have total control of the service. Guernsey has been left high and dry before, BA and more recently KLMuk.
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ATR72 STANSTED INCIDENT
G-COBO operating GR627 STN-GCI declared an emergency after take off yesterday. The fault was a hydraulic issue. After holding in the area, the a/c landed safely but the flight to GCI was cancelled. Details in Hertfordshire Mercury and elsewhere.
G-COBO operating GR627 STN-GCI declared an emergency after take off yesterday. The fault was a hydraulic issue. After holding in the area, the a/c landed safely but the flight to GCI was cancelled. Details in Hertfordshire Mercury and elsewhere.
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Ever since Air UK sold its LHR slots used for a GCI service, with the result of the LHR-GCI service getting axed, Guernsey has been traumatized and worried about a possible loss of its remaining "proper" London service to Gatwick. Therefore they are not exactly in bean-counter mode.
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Seems like there is now going to be a lot of competition on the island routes. Waves, air Alderney and Clear Harbour all looking to establish themselves. Does this spell the end of the additional new Dornier? No news about its arrival.
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Last year Aurigny trumpeted it's tie up with the easyJet's 'Worldwide Connections' enabling pax to check in at GCI and collect bags at their final destination,here we are at the end of May
& still nothing is available to book. Has anyone an update on this or has it died a quiet death?
& still nothing is available to book. Has anyone an update on this or has it died a quiet death?
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Last year Aurigny trumpeted it's tie up with the easyJet's 'Worldwide Connections' enabling pax to check in at GCI and collect bags at their final destination,here we are at the end of May
& still nothing is available to book. Has anyone an update on this or has it died a quiet death?
& still nothing is available to book. Has anyone an update on this or has it died a quiet death?
The Embraer seems to have suffered quite a few tech issues/delays in recent weeks & I see it is once again tech & stuck at LGW this morning, 
UPDATED. Long delays & cancelled flights have followed, there is lack of back up aircraft as one ATR is on a day stop in Bordeaux.
Does it really take this long to get a spare part (brake parts from Sussex apparently) roaded up & fitted?
Police called to GCI airport to deal with unruly passengers.
Aurigny - The Islanders airline!!
UPDATED. Long delays & cancelled flights have followed, there is lack of back up aircraft as one ATR is on a day stop in Bordeaux.
Does it really take this long to get a spare part (brake parts from Sussex apparently) roaded up & fitted?
Police called to GCI airport to deal with unruly passengers.
Aurigny - The Islanders airline!!
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The Embraer seems to have suffered quite a few tech issues/delays in recent weeks & I see it is once again tech & stuck at LGW this morning,
UPDATED. Long delays & cancelled flights have followed, there is lack of back up aircraft as one ATR is on a day stop in Bordeaux.
Does it really take this long to get a spare part (brake parts from Sussex apparently) roaded up & fitted?
Police called to GCI airport to deal with unruly passengers.
Aurigny - The Islanders airline!!
UPDATED. Long delays & cancelled flights have followed, there is lack of back up aircraft as one ATR is on a day stop in Bordeaux.
Does it really take this long to get a spare part (brake parts from Sussex apparently) roaded up & fitted?
Police called to GCI airport to deal with unruly passengers.
Aurigny - The Islanders airline!!
