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Old 27th Mar 2018, 19:32
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I donít think TUI are competing with Ryanair to be honest - if you want just a flight you will go with Ryanair, if you want a package holiday with everything taken care of you will be going with TUI. One is a scheduled airline, the other is a holiday company with an airline.

Curious to know where this was announced, canít see anything about it?
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Old 27th Mar 2018, 20:13
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Originally Posted by vrb03kt View Post
I don’t think TUI are competing with Ryanair to be honest - if you want just a flight you will go with Ryanair, if you want a package holiday with everything taken care of you will be going with TUI. One is a scheduled airline, the other is a holiday company with an airline.

Curious to know where this was announced, can’t see anything about it?
There was a briefing by Irish branch of TUI today which is unusual timing in itself. Not sure if its the same in UK but in addition to TUI shops most of packages are sold via independent travel agency's. TUI never do the big route reveal like in the UK, so press will be low even when they go on sale.
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Old 28th Mar 2018, 21:50
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Confrontation:

Dublin Airport welcomes the announcement from TUI Ireland that it will add two new destinations, Paphos in Cyprus and Dalaman in Turkey to its summer 2019 schedule.

The tour operator also announced that extra flights will be added to six of its existing destinations - Majorca, Ibiza, Crete, Zante, Rhodes and Bulgaria.
Got to be a second aircraft.

https://www.dublinairport.com/latest...or-summer-2019
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Old 29th Mar 2018, 05:21
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Originally Posted by EI-A330-300 View Post
Confrontation:



Got to be a second aircraft.

https://www.dublinairport.com/latest...or-summer-2019
Extra flights could just mean.longer operating season or more overnight flying. The PR would normally make mention of any new based a/c
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Old 29th Mar 2018, 07:17
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TUI holidays could just be buying capacity with another carrier
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Old 29th Mar 2018, 10:17
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Originally Posted by GrahamK View Post
Extra flights could just mean.longer operating season or more overnight flying. The PR would normally make mention of any new based a/c
The briefing stated extra frequency to allow more 10-12 night breaks and not just the standard 7 day which is only possible on all the routes marked for extra flights except Palma.

The based aircraft only has around 4 hours without flying currently most nights.

They still contract out around 10 weekly flights ex DUB + ORK/SNN/NOC flying so a second aircraft would be well utilized to reduce this and operate the extra freq.

TUI holidays could just be buying capacity with another carrier
They already use Aer Lingus on some routes but no scheduled services operate to any destination except Dalaman/Paphas (Ryanair) and Majorca/Bulgaria.
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Old 29th Mar 2018, 12:56
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Dalaman was flown with ASL until it was cut in 2016.
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Old 30th Mar 2018, 07:52
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The Irish Times is reporting that Aeroflot is to start a Moscow-Dublin service.
A source at the flagship Russian carrier said a decision had been taken in Moscow to proceed with a direct flight although the company has yet to decide when it will commence and its frequency.
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...oute-1.3444792

JAS
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Old 3rd Apr 2018, 18:18
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I was lucky enough to use the new remote T2 gates last week. It seems an usual choice to put the bus link into place. They were announcing gates with the same notice as standard gates - quite a few people missing flights as it took so much longer to get there...

One of my other 'bus' bugbears is when Air Lingus Regional board the bus by row number - front number first, when actually at the ATR they want those people who are now trapped on the bus to actually board the plane first. It should not be brain science to board the bus in reverse order to the plane...
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Old 4th Apr 2018, 07:16
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Any risk to Dublins EY routes given the EDI announcement?
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Old 4th Apr 2018, 09:25
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I would say all the ME carriers will be struggling with capacity issues shortly. Currently there is EY, EK and Qatar. Soon to be links to HKG with Cathay and Hainan to Mainland China. Will be a buyers market soon enough. Bring it on.
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Old 4th Apr 2018, 17:03
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I fly EK every eight weeks or so. Most of the time it's full or close to it.

I think I've had one flight with an empty seat next to me.
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Old 4th Apr 2018, 20:15
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Originally Posted by davidjpowell View Post
I was lucky enough to use the new remote T2 gates last week. It seems an usual choice to put the bus link into place. They were announcing gates with the same notice as standard gates - quite a few people missing flights as it took so much longer to get there...

One of my other 'bus' bugbears is when Air Lingus Regional board the bus by row number - front number first, when actually at the ATR they want those people who are now trapped on the bus to actually board the plane first. It should not be brain science to board the bus in reverse order to the plane...
I think you mean unlucky.
I'll be flying Ryanair to avoid those remote gates as I'm on a route served by EI and FR.
Stuck for 15 minutes to deboard at remote stand for no obvious reason when gates at T2 proper are free and then the journey in to passport control taking a long time too.
EI will just have to put their foot down and refuse to inconvenience their Customers just to suit a lazy DAA.
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Old 4th Apr 2018, 21:00
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Originally Posted by diple View Post
I think you mean unlucky.
I'll be flying Ryanair to avoid those remote gates as I'm on a route served by EI and FR.
Stuck for 15 minutes to deboard at remote stand for no obvious reason when gates at T2 proper are free and then the journey in to passport control taking a long time too.
EI will just have to put their foot down and refuse to inconvenience their Customers just to suit a lazy DAA.
It was Aer Lingus who wanted the busing gates

Taking 15 minutes is down to handing by EI not the daa and personally its less than 10 minutes from leaving aircraft to clear immigration. The arrivals are bused into T2 stands in the evenings.

It would take them just as long to bring an bridge to the aircraft at T2!

I was lucky enough to use the new remote T2 gates last week. It seems an usual choice to put the bus link into place. They were announcing gates with the same notice as standard gates - quite a few people missing flights as it took so much longer to get there...

One of my other 'bus' bugbears is when Air Lingus Regional board the bus by row number - front number first, when actually at the ATR they want those people who are now trapped on the bus to actually board the plane first. It should not be brain science to board the bus in reverse order to the plane...
The EIR bus boarding procedure is new to me.
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Old 4th Apr 2018, 21:39
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Originally Posted by EI-EIDW View Post
its less than 10 minutes from leaving aircraft to clear immigration.

It would take them just as long to bring an bridge to the aircraft at T2!
No can't agree with that. That was not my experience and I will(actually have) adjust my travel plans to avoid this in future. Flying out I asked a FA if what I experienced was normal.
I forgot to mention that even though the remote gates were used where there is no skybridge, the rear doors weren't opened to speed up de-boarding. All passengers on an A320 went out through the front door at a remote stand.
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The arrivals are bused into T2 stands in the evenings.
...so I can't even hope for better service in the future as I fly in during the evenings/night.
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Old 4th Apr 2018, 22:04
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...so I can't even hope for better service in the future as I fly in during the evenings/night.
Its 4-5 flights out of around 25 which arrive there. Its not really bad if the handling delays were addressed by EI because I agree they have been slow the few late nights arrivals I have had.
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Old 4th Apr 2018, 22:14
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I get the feeling that my flight is one of those ones which will always be left out at the remote stand because it arrives later and they can't be bothered to use a skybridge for the convenience of passengers and then move the plane to a remote stand for the night once everyone has de-boarded.
I'm still not seeing the benefit to me of choosing EI in preference to FR any more. I feel this way but I'm back in the cheap seats. The frequent flyers up front on some of those late Aer Lingus flights will have no problem using a more expensive competitor on their routes just to avoid inconvenience. FR isn't the only competitor on my particular route.
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Old 4th Apr 2018, 23:26
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Originally Posted by diple View Post
I get the feeling that my flight is one of those ones which will always be left out at the remote stand because it arrives later and they can't be bothered to use a skybridge for the convenience of passengers and then move the plane to a remote stand for the night once everyone has de-boarded.
I'm still not seeing the benefit to me of choosing EI in preference to FR any more. I feel this way but I'm back in the cheap seats. The frequent flyers up front on some of those late Aer Lingus flights will have no problem using a more expensive competitor on their routes just to avoid inconvenience. FR isn't the only competitor on my particular route.
There is no set assignment, if anything its heavily based on where x aircraft is departing the following morning but there are some departures which they wouldn't dare force to use the busing gates. You wouldn't have a Heathrow departure from there....


The good news is there will be a dedicated T2 busing terminal in the future towards that side of T2 so busing will be quicker and more frequent.
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Old 5th Apr 2018, 08:12
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Stuck for 15 minutes to deboard at remote stand for no obvious reason when gates at T2 proper .....EI will just have to put their foot down and refuse to inconvenience their Customers just to suit a lazy DAA
I have another 23 flights booked this year on the DUB-FRA route and I've moved away from EI to LH because of the messing around with the walk from T2 check in to a T1 departure gate or getting drenched boarding at the remote gates. (Welcome to Aer Lingus Cargo it says over the gates).

This poor airport infrastructure is really making life difficult for us passengers.

In passing, why do the air-bridges at T1 keep breaking down? (example - Tues am arrival from FRA left on aircraft 30 mins, then deplaned by steps from rear)
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Old 5th Apr 2018, 08:45
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23 flights on your own dime or your company's? I'd guess if you are moving to LH that it is a company paying the bill.
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