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Old 19th Mar 2020, 15:15
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 15:20
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you sure it wasn't too few letters, not words?
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 17:37
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I read on the BBC that EZY want all their staff to take 3 months unpaid leave. But the bosses are merely taking a 20% pay cut. Since the recovery from the present situation will have nothing to do with the EZY bosses, I can't see why they should be paid at all.
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 18:21
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Originally Posted by True Blue
you sure it wasn't too few letters, not words?
Yes, that’s probably it.
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 18:23
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Originally Posted by inOban
I read on the BBC that EZY want all their staff to take 3 months unpaid leave. But the bosses are merely taking a 20% pay cut. Since the recovery from the present situation will have nothing to do with the EZY bosses, I can't see why they should be paid at all.
Surely the CEO, COO and FD will be the principle players, within the company, who will determine whether the company survives this crisis, and therefore whether there are any jobs at all?
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 18:37
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The article actually said "Among the proposed changes are a freeze on planned pay rises and a requirement to take three months of unpaid leave." but discussions are still ongoing.
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 18:45
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Originally Posted by Tonyq
Surely the CEO, COO and FD will be the principle players, within the company, who will determine whether the company survives this crisis, and therefore whether there are any jobs at all?
I agree, they will have a major part to play.

In addition if you make senior management redundant you will find that minimum 3 or 6 month or more notice contracts in place. This means you pay them for this plus enhanced redundancy.

If and when the system rboots itself there are the very people you need to be able to get back to whatever is normal. If this started to happen in July then you will have paid them 3 months notice (minimum), lots of redundancy and you will still need the skills they have.
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 20:22
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I can only guess that this is a way to motivate lots of Easyjet staff to find an alternate job ASAP - it's in effect saying to people that they can remain nominally employed so there is no gap on their CV, but they should spend the next 3 months focussed solely on looking for a new job. Alternatively if people really really need cash now then take your chances with redundancy money.
That said, the people at the top should be taking a deeper paycut than just 20% - they will certainly be working very hard in the next few months to save the company, but it fails to recognise that somebody on 500k per year can afford a reduced income much more easily than someone on 20k per year. Very poor leadership
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 21:34
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I would imagine their plans for a swanky new HQ will be kicked into the long grass.

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Old 20th Mar 2020, 00:14
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I would imagine their plans for a swanky new HQ will be kicked into the long grass.
Nope. It’s going ahead.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 16:31
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I tell you one thing that easyJet are getting wrong is their PR regarding present political/commercial situation.
The paying public aren't going to be too impressed with their whining (alongside other airlines) for a government payout when they read about the millions that are paid out to easy investors while the present crisis worsens. The amounts alone that Stelios and family have received in recent years is breathtaking? So why should Joe Public have to cough up when there are many more deserving causes that may need financial assistance?

I wish you all well during the present crisis, but suggest your company's board and management should maybe take a look in the mirror before they start stretching out with the begging bowl.

Good luck to you all and I hope your jobs remain during this crisis.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 17:08
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Originally Posted by WelshBarry
I tell you one thing that easyJet are getting wrong is their PR regarding present political/commercial situation.
The paying public aren't going to be too impressed with their whining (alongside other airlines) for a government payout when they read about the millions that are paid out to easy investors while the present crisis worsens. The amounts alone that Stelios and family have received in recent years is breathtaking? So why should Joe Public have to cough up when there are many more deserving causes that may need financial assistance?

I wish you all well during the present crisis, but suggest your company's board and management should maybe take a look in the mirror before they start stretching out with the begging bowl.

Good luck to you all and I hope your jobs remain during this crisis.
It's simple: what you and most of the public seem to ignore is that most of those share holders are pension funds.

Sure maybe Stelios should forego his dividend. But you cannot rightfully refuse it to be paid to those vital funds that will impact peoples pensions. The hardship is coming for easy staff and they have my deepest sympathies at this difficult time. But why cause hardship for even more people?
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 17:48
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They say it had already been signed off.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 18:59
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Originally Posted by LTNman
They say it had already been signed off.
this was asked to Johan in a stand up last week. To be fair to him you could tell he was unhappy that the money had left the business and couldn’t do anything about it.

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Old 21st Mar 2020, 04:45
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Originally Posted by WelshBarry
I tell you one thing that easyJet are getting wrong is their PR regarding present political/commercial situation.
The paying public aren't going to be too impressed with their whining (alongside other airlines) for a government payout when they read about the millions that are paid out to easy investors while the present crisis worsens.
I don't think the public will give a flying rat's arsehole. They'll still want their cheap flights to Benidorm and once this has blown over it'll be a distant memory.
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Old 21st Mar 2020, 07:52
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Originally Posted by Reversethrustset
I don't think the public will give a flying rat's arsehole. They'll still want their cheap flights to Benidorm and once this has blown over it'll be a distant memory.
Your really believe that? Good grief.
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Old 21st Mar 2020, 08:17
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Your really believe that? Good grief.
I could. Amidst all this, I'm itching to book a holiday.
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Old 21st Mar 2020, 09:20
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Happy trippers to Benidorm are only part of the picture. Its business travel that pays the bills. If they spend months using modern media to deal with each other worldwide, sucessfully, when `normality` returns they are much less likely to send exec`s by air. The second drawback does affect the happy trippers to Benidorm and that is the Travel Insurance Industry..Already they have said they will not cover again for pandemics and virus emergencies like this, after the 14th March actually. That alone will dampen demand. They give the appearance of being latter day Highwaymen so if you fall ill abroad, they`ll do their best, again, to wriggle out of paying.

Time of course will tell
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Old 21st Mar 2020, 10:56
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Yes and No.
Holiday wise - the wide consensus in our family is that as soon as we can we are going to get something booked and go 'somewhere - anywhere' (er not Benidorm though thanks).
Business wise - I had my first trip cancelled 3 weeks ago (the day before travel) and since then I have been working remotely. The limitations of doing this are already apparent to me and to my clients. With a more or less global reach on my activities, the practical issue of different time zones is a major challenge. There is a considerable amount of pent-up demand to get things done face to face whenever it's possible.
Of more relevance though is whether there is an economy left to do business with. We are literally watching our children's futures go up in smoke.
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Old 21st Mar 2020, 11:33
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Originally Posted by paully
Happy trippers to Benidorm are only part of the picture. Its business travel that pays the bills. If they spend months using modern media to deal with each other worldwide, sucessfully, when `normality` returns they are much less likely to send exec`s by air. The second drawback does affect the happy trippers to Benidorm and that is the Travel Insurance Industry..Already they have said they will not cover again for pandemics and virus emergencies like this, after the 14th March actually. That alone will dampen demand. They give the appearance of being latter day Highwaymen so if you fall ill abroad, they`ll do their best, again, to wriggle out of paying.

Time of course will tell
The insurers (or mine at least) will cover medical expenses but not cancellation or delay due to corona from the date it was declared a pandemic. That's why tui etc have issued a promise around fee free flexibility on bookings.
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